Diogenesister
Thanks for the clarification.and apologies to those who it was intended
this letter was posted on the aust and nz facebook group this week.. it is self explanatory!
wow.... it seems to be their attempt at controlling the situation after the arc fallout.. .
Thanks for the clarification.and apologies to those who it was intended
should i go to a judicial committee and perhaps get disfellowshipped?
should i talk to the elders just because they say they want to talk to me?
should i simply disassociate myself and have nothing to do with the organization?.
Let me ask you this mm ,if you were a baptized person and never attended meetings for 10-20 years ,how would the G.B.of Jw`s / Elders view you ? I believe they would automatically assume you have been practising wrongs that are condemned in the Bible and haul you before a JC committee if ever you walked back into a K.H.
So my position was better for me to do it to them than they do it to me .
In your scenario you cant win whatever you do ?
but at least I felt good about it .
Just my 2 cents worth.
i thought this was a very interesting argument by robert king.
i liked the point he made about if israel had a prophet who spoke in the name of jehovah and it did not occur did this mean that the nation of israel was a false prophet or more so if the nation of israel sincerely believed it.
the answer to that is a resounding no because the nation of israel was god’s appointed nation.
Is the Pope a Catholic ?
{ I know its an old one }
this letter was posted on the aust and nz facebook group this week.. it is self explanatory!
wow.... it seems to be their attempt at controlling the situation after the arc fallout.. .
Good questions guys ,to first surface on FB ? maybe I just wanted to believe it .
We do need verification somebody as to whether its a hoax or genuine ?
my quora campaign of answering all jw related questions truthfully with evidence is going well.
however, one jw had the audacity to claim that "jws do not shun".
they seem to want to present a fake, squeeky clean image to non-members and seem to get angry when answering questions regarding shunning.. like this asshole, dennis cybulski.
According to AM3, the Witnesses don't break-up families or anything like ''that''
Then he`s not a Christian because that`s what Jesus said he came to do .
" Do not think I came to put peace upon the earth,I came to put not peace but a sword ,for I came to cause division with a man against his father and a daughter against her mother and a young wife against her mother in-law. Indeed a mans enemies will be persons of his own household.
Matt.10:34-36 So apparently Jesus was happy enough to break up familys
If its in the Bible it must be true .
this letter was posted on the aust and nz facebook group this week.. it is self explanatory!
wow.... it seems to be their attempt at controlling the situation after the arc fallout.. .
Maybe you need to get yourself a new pair of glasses friend as I had no problem reading it and I`m 79 yrs old .
And yes they are certainly concerned about the leaks about the Borg from apostate sites .
documents produced during the second temple period included writings such as 1 enoch, jubilees, and sirach.
apostle paul lived during the very late stage of that period.the first century jews, including those who accepted jesus as the promised messiah, regarded these writings very highly.this list provides the locations in the new testament documents that either cite or allude to these second temple writings.. http://www.jwstudies.com/nt_citation_and_allusions_to_apocrypha.pdf .
2 Tim.3:16 All scripture is inspired and beneficial for teaching ...etc,etc.?
Their are heaps of other scriptures that are ignored by Christians even ones that are named in the accepted bible texts known as the Bible today.
Just to name a couple that are mentioned in the Bible ,however are not a part of the bible canon.?
The book of Enoch ,
The book of Jubilees.
The Testament of Noah
The book of Jasher
Their are dozens more scriptures in circulation that never made it into the Bible ,not because God didn`t want them to be their ,but simply because men didn`t want them to be in the accepted canon.
Also when 2 Tim 3:16 was uttered a significant portion of the New testament was not even written.?
many people over many centuries have been involved in deciding which documents were scripture.
there has never been unanimous agreement, including today.
only the church of rome took a vote on the canon.
Jehovah`s witnesses like or even relish how they are different and set themselves apart from Christendom so it always puzzled me why they had the same books of the bible as the protestant religions ?
Which was basically just a few short of what the Catholics designated as the Bible Canon.
You think they would have at least included two or three of the scriptures/books that were actually named in the accepted books of the Bible ?
Such as the book of Enoch ? Jubilees , Jasher ?
And if I remember correctly the W.T. did acknowledge that 1st and 2nd Maccabees did have historical significance to the Bible ,yet they did not include them either.
should i go to a judicial committee and perhaps get disfellowshipped?
should i talk to the elders just because they say they want to talk to me?
should i simply disassociate myself and have nothing to do with the organization?.
I had no "in" people/relatives to worry about so I decided after many years on this site even though I had stopped associating with the witnesses for decades ,that I would D.A. myself from the JW`s religion .
To me that was like I was taking the upper hand and disfellowshiping the organization from me , and not them D.F. me.
And regardless of how they viewed it ,and I don`t care ,I found it satisfying for me.
I D.A. /D.F. them and not them me.
i.b.s.a.
were all about witnessing to, for ,and about jesus christ and not jehovah.
, c.t russell started the magazine titled " zions watchtower and herald of christs presence" in the late 1870`s .. stating that jesus christ had appeared invisibly on his return in 1874 and was now present in the heavens.so according to them at the time they could rightly say as the wt pronounced they were heralding jesus christs presence then.. charles taze russell and his followers were witnesses of jesus christ and not witnesses of jehovah.. the christian greek scriptures /new testament are full of the prime purpose of christians is to witness about ,too, and for the person/ name jesus , that has been given above any other name either in heaven ,on earth ,or under the earth phil.2:10. it was only the usurper of c.t.russell joseph rutherford who hijacked the religion and made it a jehovian/old testament religion shifting the emphasis away from jesus christ and putting it on a catholic name of the "old testament god jehovah" invented by a 13th century monk using the four letters of the tetragrammaton into latin and adding some vowels to come up with the name jehovah.. no where in the christian greek scriptures the new testament are followers of jesus christ told to be witnesses of jehovah ,however countless times at least (20+) they are told to be witnesses of jesus christ..
Sad to say The Fall Guy that the majority of J.W.`s who read those scriptures do not consider the context or even who is speaking and instead of recognizing it is Christ Jesus that is referred too they just assume it is Jehovah .
Again, sad to say the majority of Jehovah`s Witnesses are mentally lazy and they do not think and reason for themselves but are quite happy to have others do their thinking for them ,namely the G.B.who keep them captives.
Thank you for that exhaustive list T.F.G.,maybe some lurkers here will see for themselves how they are being duped .