i had an ex-jw uncle of mine visiting me yesterday from another part of the country.
i usually only ever see him at weddings and funerals but we keep in touch on facebook.
we were catching up in my place with his wife when about an hour into the visit there's a knock on my door, this was about 4pm.. strange... the only people who ever knock without calling me first are the postman and my ex-wife.. i open the door and it's a face i recognize from my last congregation.
If I was you p.e. I would track down where he lives and do a cold call on his residence late in the morning or early afternoon when he would more likely be sober and sound him out as to why he called on you .
It could be very interesting to see what his response would be .
quite a few years ago there was a poster here that left the religion because he knew it was simply not true.
however, he returned to jws because he wanted to be with his family.
i don’t know how he is doing but gumby was his name.
The sad thing about is many people leave the religion but the religion never leaves them .
And that is because :
1.They have never seriously questioned the beliefs of JW`s and researched their doctrinal teachings.
And its all about feelings and attitudes and don`t know or even care about doctrines its all emotional.
2.Their are many that go back knowing its not the truth however go back for sentimental family ties they have.
3.And a small portion go back in the belief they can somehow gradually wake up a family member or a close friend that they believe they can free.
Just my 2 cents.
so this particular comment on another topic got me thinking about "regional" jw cultures.
things that were acceptable in one area you lived in, that were absolutely verboten in the jw hall/circuit you perhaps grew up in etc.
never met jws that cared if people played chess, and i knew a number of people who did play chess.
We attended five congregations in Melbourne Aust. in the 1960`s and they were all very conservative and I mean very.
We moved to S.E.Qld in the 1970`s and the atmosphere was completely different much more relaxed and more open and liberal .
Get together`s , camping out and alcohol was no problem groups going out to restuarant`s they were very social events ,and meals at each others places were not uncommon.
I think it was the social interaction we had in the congregations that made everything else so bearable.
i am sure that many have already seen this, but its worth sharing again:.
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However if they were teaching wrong things in 1919 their is NO WAY Jesus would have accepted them as his faithful servants and appointed them over all his belongings because they would be no better than any other of Christendoms religions teaching falsehoods.
And if by any remote chance Jesus did accept them as the Faithful and discreet slave class in 1919 Jesus would be rejecting them now because they have now abandoned all the teachings they taught in 1919 .
https://www.abc.net.au/news/newschannel/.
In my book if the governments were in fact serious about this whole business they would prosecute all of those who knew of child sexual abuse and didn`t report it to the appropriate authorities whether it was mandatory or not .
Whether it be people in charge of Institutions ,Churches or charitable organizations.
To sexually abuse a child is a crime ,to know about this abuse and not report it is surely a crime because you are then aiding and abetting a criminal that is also a crime and allowing that person to commit other crimes against children.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/newschannel/.
And didn`t the opposition leader bill Shorten state that half of the States of Australia still haven`t signed up supporting the Redress Scheme ,that only half have done so in this point of time.?
Institutions ,Churches and charities may argue that if half of the States of Australia refuse to sign up on the Redress scheme then why should we.? Its either all or nothing.
Many people are skeptical of this whole affair. Are Governments just show poning ,seeming to do the right thing to appease the masses without actually doing very much about it.?
I hope not.
Edit to add: I did listen to Bill Shortens speech and I was impressed by what he said however he is the opposition leader and what opposition leaders say doesn`t always if ever come to fruition when their in power .
several months ago i finally sent them a letter.
they are from the group of die-hards that continue to shun their father.
the following is a paste of part of the first page.
Well I thought it was a good letter len and I hope they received it in the spirit it was intended
.With all that has been going on in Watchtower LaLa land these past few years, what with the mergers of Kh`s ,selling off properties all around the world cutting back on literature production ,laying off Bethel members ,all of the child sex abuse issues that are emerging world wide , the cult like adoration of the GB members and the JW.ORG logo etc,etc,
I find it increasingly hard to comprehend why many more people haven`t abandoned this poor excuse for a religion.
The sad fact is I suppose that humans throw reason right out of the window when they WANT TO BELIEVE something despite all of the evidence against doing so.
Good luck buddy and I hope you get some good feed back from your sons.
backstory:.
so my born-in cousin who recently left the org is looking to start an ex-jw / group instagram based in socal.
he asked me if i had any ideas for a photo that can used for the instagram page and this is what i made for him:.
Vin Toole should have had his arse sued off lying as he did at the ARC what a scumbag he is.
https://youtu.be/qic5cfkjswu.
interview on melbourne (australia) abc radio - regarding watchtower's refusal to "say sorry" (global campaign).
radio host jon faine interviews lara kaputt.
There is a cartoon from an Australian newspaper that depicts the actions/attitudes of the wt compared with other churches in this matter but \i cant find it to place it here anyone can it would be appropriate
.zeb , do you remember what newspaper it was that had that particular cartoon ? If so contact them and they will supply you with a copy .
If you cant remember which paper it was {their aren`t that many } right or e-mail them all asking for a copy of the cartoon if they were the one which published it .
I`m sure they will oblige.
I wish I had seen it.
the link bellow is sort of ok. i could not find a decent article in english language about this, but russian media is exploding.
2 days ago a teenager killed 19 people and injured dozens and committed suicide.
he was raised in a jw family.
Where in a Watchtower publication is the 2014 date suggested? I would find this useful if it exists.
I think its a case of reading between the lines vienne .
1914 is a date that J.W.`s originally said was the end of this system of things / the world by the I.B.S.A. /C.T.Russell .
And for decades they taught that the generation that that saw and understood the events of 1914 ,e.g. 10 year old`s would not die off when the end would come .
{ search back on my posts 3 witness`s rule , Bible based of how long a biblical generation lasted }
Lets not forget the Watchtower that showed all of these elderly JW`s on their front cover that would not die before Armageddon arrived .
Of course they all did.
Then they implied that Armageddon would occur before the end of the twentieth century and that the faithful would enter into the new world.
None of which has ever eventuated . And this is 2018 ?
How many failed prophecy`s , expectation`s , beliefs ,doctrines ,of the one true God Jehovah and his one true organization of the G.B.of Jehovah`s witnesses take for them to realize that they have been had ?
That it is all a scam ?
A con ?
What does it take for them to wake up ? And see they have been had all of their lives ?
