Posts by smiddy3

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"The sun will be darkened, & the moon will not give its light." How do events like this affect superstitious humans?

by fulltimestudent in

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the gospel of matthew's homily on the signs connected with the imagined return of christ, features an element of the sign that seems to really scare superstitious people.. matthew 24:29 reads: "immediately after the distress of those days "'the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light;".

in the nineteenth century such an even occurred twice in the 19th century and apparently became part of charlie russell's conviction that the end of the world was nigh, charlie, of course, was a 'man of faith' accepting the bible as true and not willing to search for alternative explanation for such events.

if charlie r. had been the sort of person that continually asks why, his life and ours may have taken a different course.. i cannot quote where in his mass of writings he cites those 19th c events (its a long time since i've bothered to be interested in his writings), but mention them he did, and saw these events as proof of the imminent return of jesus christ.. so let's look at these two 19th c.natural occurrences, and compare them to another occurrence some 1400 years ago.. the 19th c events occurred in 1814-16 and again circa, 1883. the reason for the sun and moon being darkened was volcanic activity, easy for us to appreciate, but more difficult for religiously superstitious people.. the wikipedia encyclopedia notes the 1814-16 event: quote.

smiddy3

Genesis talks about the two great luminaries one for the day and one for the night ,OK ?

As far as the luminary for the day ( Sun) in most of the earth it does appear to rise in the morning and set in the evening of each and every day throughout the 365-6 days of the year.

However in the Arctic regions both north and south that may not always be the case .

The sun never rises or else the sun never sets. For a good period of time .

In the case for the luminary of the night (moon) that`s not always the case .Because some nights the moon just fails to appear simply because its visible during the day time on the other side of the earth.

So in actual fact their are many times during the year that the moon will not give its light and that has always been the case .

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Today in Rotten History

by Marilyn in

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today in rotten history we live in a slightly mad world .

may 24 1997 wade thomas poyner, a prominent jehovah's witness in woodland, washington, is arrested for a lewd incident involving a preteen boy.

while not charged with that crime, poyner was charged for a summer 1991 rape of a 6 year old boy, and is suspected in nine other incidents involving preteen boys.

smiddy3

I wonder how many other misguided mom`s and dad`s are out their ? not appreciating their silence could very well mean other children will likely be molested ?

I`m sorry for you and your brother and wish you both well.

Take care .

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Should Voters Be Made To Prove They Are Eligible To Vote?

by minimus in

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i believe that just because someone shows up at the voting booth, it doesn’t automatically qualify them to be legitimate voters.

i think it’s not unreasonable to provide proof that you are qualified..

smiddy3

I know this point can be a controversial subject : here in Australia its compulsory to register & vote if your over the age of 18 .

And i think that`s a fair system to have .But one where YOU have a say in how your country is run

And not bemoan about the state of the country after an election when YOU didn`t bother to vote because its not compulsory

I know people are going to say that takes away their personal freedoms etc,etc.

With a system of compulsory voting if you really so strongly feel that way all you have to do is make your vote void of no account , mark it in such a way as it doesn`t count.

Many JW`s did that myself included when I was a believer I went through the process fullfiling the obligations of registering etc,and when it came time to vote put down "Jehovah`s Kingdom By Christ Jesus and put a couple of scriptures to verify it .

And was never ever questioned about it or fined for not voting.

Now that i`m out of a brainwashed controlling religion that to a degree controlled what I thought and did .

I find it a little bit hard to comprehend that once you have left that behind and that now YOU have control to some extent what happens in your community you don`t take advantage of the opportunity to do so ?

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Hype and Anti-Type Russia 13 Years Ago

by scotoma in

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worldly news services were calling things correctly with russia.. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/108767/pushing-russian-bear.

smiddy3

This is the "wild beast that was but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss and it is to go off into destruction." Revelation 17:8

Scotoma , This scripture was used by the JW / WT organization in their publications to explain the league of Nations forming after the first world war ,then going into the abyss at the outbreak of the second world war , and then ascending out of the abyss at the end of the second world war as the United Nations .

It was never implied to relate to The USSR or the current Russia. of today.

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A big shout out to the NHS

by moley in

last week i suffered two heart attacks, first one occurred while i was at home, phoned for an ambulance which promptly arrived and whisked me off too hospital, docs decided i needed a stent and during the angioplasty i had a massive heart attack according to the doc that did it.

i was unaware as i was out.

but what i want to say is what an amazing organisation the nhs is.

smiddy3

Holey moley ,sounds like you really dodged a bullet their my friend . Paramedics do a marvelous job in caring for those in emergency situations . I hope you have a speedy recovery .

And where would we be without the NHS especially older ones and those that are most vulnerable .?

what an amazing organisation the NHS is. From the paramedics to the docs and the nurses who cared for me on the ward who held my hand when I was in pain and were caring and professional.

I couldn`t agree with you more THESE PEOPLE are the REAL lifesavers of the world .

Not some two bit insignificant small time real estate publishing agency from America that poses as a religious organization that continually preaches doomsday that never eventuates .

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Hype and Anti-Type Russia 13 Years Ago

by scotoma in

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worldly news services were calling things correctly with russia.. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/108767/pushing-russian-bear.

smiddy3

Russia alone was never the King of the North , the king of the north as explained by Jehovah`s witness theology was the United Soviet Socialist republics that is USSR and not Russia alone .

The fact that the USSR ,the Union Of Soviet Socialist Republics was disbanded years ago proves that the Jehovah`s Witness religion/Watchtower are false profits.

The USSR was a number of nations under the control and domination of Russia in Eastern Europe and when they gained independence from Russia , she lost her power ,as a world power.

She was no longer the King of The North .And the JW`s / Governing Body , if i have read things correctly do not know who the current king of the north is at this present time.

Quoting something political / prophetical in print about what JW`s said years ago is always going to bite them in the bum .Why ? simply because they keep changing what they said in times past and trying to always re-invent themselves into something they never were .

Why would an organization any organization be ashamed to acknowledge their past history ? Yet Jehovah`s Witnesses try to do it constantly.

Thank God for the internet that exposes their deception.

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Animals

by unsure in

if humans have to suffer to have free will and to disprove satan's challenge to god as mentioned in the bible...then why the f*ck do animals have to suffer as well?

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satan's challenge involved humans and not poor animals.. i'm looking for an honest explanation from believers.. at this point, the older i get, the less i believe in a god who is "love"..

smiddy3

I have just looked at the difference between hedgehogs ,porcupines and echidnas ,and was somewhat surprised I thought they would have all been of the same family.But no.

You have a story to tell there AA and if you dont mind I would like to here it if and when you have time.

Take care. maybe others would too ,it sounds interesting.

We have Echidna`s in our area of S.E. Gippsland Vic.Australia.

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Animals

by unsure in

if humans have to suffer to have free will and to disprove satan's challenge to god as mentioned in the bible...then why the f*ck do animals have to suffer as well?

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satan's challenge involved humans and not poor animals.. i'm looking for an honest explanation from believers.. at this point, the older i get, the less i believe in a god who is "love"..

smiddy3

God cursed the Earth because of sin. We and all creation get to see a world without God's good and full stewardship.

So in the four thousand years from Adam to Jesus Christ, Jehovah God had at his command slaughtered millions of animals and birds on the Alter of Jehovah with such blood letting .

As a sacrifice to him ?

Of his own creation .?

Jehovah doesnt sound like a God who loves animals to me ?

And God cursed the whole earth because his two perfect human beings were not so perfect after all ?

Could it be that the fault lies with Jehovah God Himself ?

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The origins of personified spirits and demons

by Doug Mason in

for the jews, personified spirit beings, good and evil, along with demons, originated during the 3rd and 2nd centuries bce.. https://jwstudies.com/crucible__powers_above.pdf .

this file will be available very temporarily.. doug.

smiddy3

AA ,this sounds all too familiar with the WT excusing the two different versions of Jesus coming into Jerusalem or coming out of Jerusalem in the Gospels .

The pretext being their was an old Jerusalem and a new Jerusalem in Jesus day .

Anybody remember this ?

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Should Voters Be Made To Prove They Are Eligible To Vote?

by minimus in

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i believe that just because someone shows up at the voting booth, it doesn’t automatically qualify them to be legitimate voters.

i think it’s not unreasonable to provide proof that you are qualified..

smiddy3

I think its a good system in Australia where once you are of the age (18) to vote you are required to register as a voter ,failure to do so is a fine ,and when you front up at a polling booth you identify yourself and your name is then crossed off the list as presenting yourself to vote ?

I dont see the problem with honest hearted people who see their civic duty .?