whatever we think of it, you have to admit that it's quite "genius".. the door to door ministry as done in western developed countries where the jw quirky religion has probably reached their saturation level was a complete and utter waste of time in terms of the effort expended to recruit people.. at the same time, it was rarely something that anyone enjoyed which led to people being labelled as inactive, being pressured to doing more and maybe ultimately deciding jwism wasn't for them and leaving.. there was also the issue that many jws are actually pretty bad at knowing and articulating their beliefs so were pretty incapable of getting any meaningful message across.. they solved all this with the cart witnessing.
the real point isn't to recruit, it's to make life easier for jws.
now they can stand and chat with their friend, have a coffee, not talk to anyone or make eye contact and still act as a walking billboard for jw.org.
Jehovah`s Witnesses that man ( male or female ) carts are guilty of lying to their God they worship claiming they are witnessing for him and his son Christ Jesus ,when they don`t have any conversation with a non JW person in all the time that they are manning these carts.
They are lying when they put in their reports.
I have heard it said , just by our being their is a witness on its own ?
If that`s the case Churches of Christendom are witnesses of their faith .
i just wonder how the elders see the cart witnessing they always want to show co when he comes to visit how congregation covers the territory.
but there must be a great problem with that now as pioneers prefer sitting drinking coffee beside a cart.
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So Pioneers now can sit down having coffee manning or womanning a cart not talk to any non witnesses and then at the end of the month put in a report that they spent 60 hours or whatever it is now witnessing for Jehovah about Christs Kingdom ,when in fact they spoke to no one outside of their own faith who dropped by.
Have they no conscience lying to their God ?
i've been debating whether or not to post this story simply because the org knows who i am (post history from pre-'05 will tell you all you need to know), and i'm not sure if they would give my parents shit if they knew what transpired earlier this summer.
but you know what, i don't care what they do, because my mom is dying of stage iv cancer and i feel this needs to be heard by anyone struggling with the loss of contact from their relatives.. for those who are not familiar with my background, i became a small thorn in the side of the wts while i was still in.
i'm not big on being deceived, and for me, the org crossed my personal 'red line' when it came to blood and the child abuse issue.
Thanks for sharing your story jouries
in my waking up i have come to a very emotional and costly conclusion.
i have been waking up for about 2 years.
the greatest gift we ( i ) can give our children is honesty and ttatt.
Welcome Fognomore ,look forward to hearing more of your story when you are ready .
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2226652490738312&set=a.106546726082243&type=3&theater this was posted on fb by a witness who l am " friends " with .
she has since posted another jw propaganda piece .
these look like they are from the wt and are official evangelising tools .
Funny that the book "Aid To Bible Understanding" printed by Jehovah`s Witnesses admitted that the name Jehovah was not the most accurate and that Yahweh was probably a more accurate rendering.
Also its interesting that nobody in the New Testament /Christian Greek Scriptures either Jesus or his disciples nor anybody else ever used the name Jehovah in the Greek text that Jehovah`s Witnesses based their New World Translation on .
And to top it off the KI translation of the Greek Text a word for word translation of the Greek that the WTB&TS printed does not contain the name/word Jehovah not one time.
Nor does it contain the equivalent Greek four letters of the Hebrew Tetragrammaton APPEAR ANYWHERE IN THE TEXT.
hi beautiful people ..... so today is my wedding anniversary ....... .
and first of all my dear husband forgot again .... which is normal according to my dear old dad "it's a man thing " .
but to add insult to injury , i must wait till friday to be taken out for dinner , because low & behold my jdub husband can't miss one bloody jw meeting !
I think that is grounds for a divorce LOL
Next time he wants sex tell him you have a 'meeting' to go too. Tennis club, cameras, painting whatever P&C (PTA). see how he likes it.
I think that`s a great idea zeb
the stupid word in the topic title is a piss-take on the bloody silly jw word "needgreaters" that i have seen them use.. but my question is genuine, i know it is a cyclical thing, we get what seems to be a lot of newbies, and then things quieten down, but not just on here, elsewhere on social media i am seeing stories of people finding the courage to leave, having woken up for a variety of reasons, but usually the child abuse scandal, and the spiteful, judgmental nature of many jw's, who, though supposedly friends, will run off to the elders to snitch on you, not talk to you.
is their a real increase in those leaving ?
i do hope so, so many more finding real freedom and happiness !.
I hope this is happening on all ex JW sites Phizzy as its very encouraging to see. Especially with the apparent reversal taking place in the JW religion .
Their loss is our gain .
but "Upwakers" ? where did you dig that word up from.?
https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2018/12/10/court-upholds-abuse-survivors-4m-judgement-against-jehovahs-witness-umbrella-organization-389-52222/?slreturn=20181111101406.
the Watchtower’s lawyers at Clark Hill in Los Angeles initially had argued that
the documents were protected by clergy-penitent privilege.
Can you believe that ?
To the general public : We are not like Christendom`s religions we don`t have a clergy laity class.
In a Court of Law : We claim Clergy Penitent privilege .
Such hypocrites .
Bring on more Million Dollar law suits against them.
i came across this website when i was looking for some emotional/mental support lately as i was summoned by elders to explain someone’s report on me saying “i’m promoting homosexuality”.
i’m inactive, not attending meetings or associating with jw outside of my biological family for almost 2 years now.. yes i am gay (you can judge away) and yes it is in a direct contrast to the scriptures, no arguement about it.. i was brought up in a jw family.
my dad is a typical zealot, he literally talks or thinks about the bible 24/7.
Leeny ,you need to know why JW`s are not the "Truth" why they are not Jehovah God`s spokespeople for today or any other day.
Or alternatively if they are the "Truth" and are chosen by God and are the spokespersons JW.Org.
You need to prove to yourself whether or not they are who they claim to be
And the only way you can do that is do your own research ,if your not prepared to do that and you only listen to what other people say your beliefs / feelings will be swayed this way and that way.not knowing what you believe.
JWfacts shows a lot of what the religion actually printed in their publications were they preaching the truth or falsehood.
just want to introduce myself and let you know that this site is working and is a big help to lots of jws with doubts.
i've been lurking for about a year, the first couple of times i was frightened and literally shaking visiting an apostate site but it's the only place i can come to for sanity.
the religion has become a nut house.
Welcome Supergirl ,look forward to more of your posts .
