I think Earthmeasured is just trying to take the piss out of us however its good for a laugh is it not ?
It brings to my mind the song " It Ain`t necessarily So " Normie Rowe
"All that your libel
To read in the bible
Ain`t necessarily so "
in the image you can see what jw wrote about how galileo was treated by the catholic church.
now they are disfelloshipping me because i believe the earth is flat.
is this coherent?.
I think Earthmeasured is just trying to take the piss out of us however its good for a laugh is it not ?
It brings to my mind the song " It Ain`t necessarily So " Normie Rowe
"All that your libel
To read in the bible
Ain`t necessarily so "
my intro essay for the new book caused all sorts of off blog controversy.
my writing partner, a retired educator and a witness, responded.
why aren't more witness men like this?
Deborah was a prophetess and Judge of Israel with the approval of Jehovah .
She taught she judged she must have been an amazing woman Judges Chapt. 4
Jehovah doesn`t change so the Bible says.
So why shouldn`t their be women in roles that are presently only allowed for men? in congregations ?
And why isnt their a woman or two on the Governing Body to balance out the male ego`s of the present GB.?
Deborah was blessed by Jehovah for her service maybe the GB should take note and make the needed changes .
But then again since when have they been influenced by what the Bible actually says .?
the new study edition watchtower is up, and most of it is devoted to child abuse damage control.. https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-may-2019/.
While on the surface it looks promising for some change ,I will keep watching this space .
friends,.
there is something realy wrong if you have to tell your church members what to report to who when child abuse happens.. g..
The trouble was and maybe still is,is that Child sexual abuse was considered a sin and not a crime in JW land .
Hard to believe that may be ,but it is the truth and does not in any way alleviate the seriousness of the sin of omission committed by Elders who sat on judicial committees dealing with such cases and not reporting it to the appropriate authorities regardless of whether it was a mandated requirement or not.
Ethically and morally they should have reported such abuse to the authorities when it came to their notice.
They failed the victims.
watchtower february 15, 1981, pages 16-19 .
do we need help to understand the bible?.
true, the brothers preparing these publications are not infallible.
Everybody holding a bible, Jackson holding maybe Kingdom Interlinear version to make sure all is right,
If he is then he should look more closely at the forward which states that Yahweh not Jehovah is more likely the correct pronunciation of the Divine name.
So the GB of JW`s are knowingly promoting a false name of God in their Worldwide Ministry .
The book "Aid To Bible Understanding" virtually said the same thing that Yahweh was the more correct pronunciation, however they stuck with the false name for God because it was the most popular name in Christendom.
Here is where Jehovah`s Witnesses speak out of both sides of their mouth .
They have always claimed that Christendom has tried to hide the name of God from their parishioner`s.
Why is the name Jehovah engraved in stone on so many Christian Churches throughout the world going back Centuries ? if they were trying to hide that name ?
watchtower february 15, 1981, pages 16-19 .
do we need help to understand the bible?.
true, the brothers preparing these publications are not infallible.
Jehovah`s Witnesses apparently follow the Roman Catholics as it is the 13th Century Spanish Monk Justin Martinus who first coined the name Jehovah as the name for the God of the Tetragrammaton YHWH or JHVH
so i'm watching john cedars commentary on the annual meeting from this last october, and at one point he shows a clip of garrett loesch talking about the struggles jehovah's witnesses faced decades before in the soviet union.
he claimed that police officers, maybe the kgb, infiltrated congregations which met in secret by studying with jehovah's witnesses, getting baptized, and then working their way up to becoming elders.
ceders jokes that this shows what kind of role holy spirit actually plays within body of elders, but another interpretation came to my mind just now.
I remember hearing those statements many years ago about Commies infiltrating the org.working their way up the ranks to spy and become like a fifth column movement within the organization.
I think its just another ploy to get the R&F all worked up about how they and they only have the "truth" and the Govt`s go to extreme lengths to persecute them.
Its not unlike many years ago when the org .threw a cat among the pigeons in the congregations implying that their were weak brothers & sisters in the congregations that needed to be "marked" because they could be a danger to ones spirituality so have little contact with them until they prove their Christian maturity .
Haven`t they also said in times past that the Govts could print fake Watchtowers to mislead the faithful ? I remember that.
Its all about control & FOG keep the JW`s on their toes persecution can come from anywhere.
Just keep trusting the GB as the F&DS and you will be fine.
i raise this question for many reasons really ,thinking back on their past history and how they have responded to past failures .that they explain away as human imperfections.. on the one hand they claim to be gods spokesperson on earth .the only true religion god is using to dispense his truths at the proper time.
and that members of the gb are the f&ds class assigned to do this.. or do they deliberately manipulate witnesses vulnerability about world events ,disasters ,earthquakes etc ,to prey on those fears about the gt /armageddon.. that they are constantly warned about .
and that it is impending.. producing videos that show how jw`s will be persecuted round up and imprisoned simply for being a jw .on a worldwide scale .. the bunker video ?.
Thanks for all of your comments guys ( M-F) some interesting thoughts brought up about how they can know on the one hand Gods Holy Spirit is not directing them yet on the other hand believing they are still his chosen people and that they will get it right one day.
I think their on a treadmill of their own making and they just can`t or wont get off ,they have made too much of a good life-style for themselves so keep pushing for the money to keep rolling in.
the final part of the october, 2018 annual meeting has now been released of jw org tv.the following includes a transcript of mark sanderson's speech for those that don't want to listen to the broadcast.. we have long held that the land of decoration is the "spiritual estate of jehovah's people"... now brothers what can we say about all these events that have taken place (referring to recent events in russia) in such a short period of time?
well, truly, if you're a student of the history of god's organization, you can say these events are unprecedented in our history.
we've never seen a country or a territory with 175,000 witnesses of jehovah go under ban.
The average R&F Jehovah`s Witness has no idea what he or she believes in anymore ,the Doctrines if you can call them that keep changing so much so often ,I bet even Jehovah can`t keep up with them anymore , and Jesus ? he just keeps scratching his head with a bewildered look on his face .
i raise this question for many reasons really ,thinking back on their past history and how they have responded to past failures .that they explain away as human imperfections.. on the one hand they claim to be gods spokesperson on earth .the only true religion god is using to dispense his truths at the proper time.
and that members of the gb are the f&ds class assigned to do this.. or do they deliberately manipulate witnesses vulnerability about world events ,disasters ,earthquakes etc ,to prey on those fears about the gt /armageddon.. that they are constantly warned about .
and that it is impending.. producing videos that show how jw`s will be persecuted round up and imprisoned simply for being a jw .on a worldwide scale .. the bunker video ?.
I raise this question for many reasons really ,thinking back on their past history and how they have responded to past failures .that they explain away as human imperfections.
On the one hand they claim to be Gods spokesperson on earth .The only True religion God is using to dispense his truths at the proper time. And that members of the GB are the F&DS class assigned to do this.
Or do they deliberately manipulate witnesses vulnerability about world events ,disasters ,earthquakes etc ,to prey on those fears about the GT /Armageddon.
That they are constantly warned about
And that it is impending.
Producing videos that show how JW`s will be persecuted round up and imprisoned simply for being a JW .on a worldwide scale .
The bunker video ?
And producing no evidence for justifying such a claim.
The GB of Jehovah`s Witnesses are deliberately trying to cause a paranoia atmosphere among the R&F hoping to achieve an outcome that will validate their own prophecy and give them more traction .
The longer they can dangle this carrot of a Paradise Earth and a New System the longer they can live the life they have chosen for themselves .
But I don`t believe they believe it anymore .