And what if it turns out to be true that it was a Muslim who did this slaughter ? against his own kind ?
sorry if this has gone off topic.
It wasn`t me
news reports.
"golf-ball size hail.
" anyone know anyone who was under that?.
And what if it turns out to be true that it was a Muslim who did this slaughter ? against his own kind ?
sorry if this has gone off topic.
It wasn`t me
i was just thinking how greatful wt can be that they dfed him when they did.
could you imagine the hammering they would be taking now from the ex-jw community, in light of the recent documentary.
i’m by no means sticking up for them i’m just saying, that’s all..
Was it ever really announced from the platform that MJ was DF ? I must have missed something.
Even if MJ had still been a JW they would reason that he wasn't really because you're not a real JW if you are sinning....( or committing a crime )
I love this reasoning : By that same argument their are no Catholics in jails because if you are a real Catholic you wouldn`t commit the crime / sin
i was listening to an overnight abc radio broadcast with rod quin ?in the early hours of the morning 14/3/19.
and with him was a guest of the labour party of newcastle nsw ,sorry her name escapes me.. and some issues were raised that i never knew of, that survivors might have .hopefully i can articulate them here as i understand it.
and remember it ....we all know the trauma that a child will go through with being abused and some will go off the rails because of that and commit some crimes of their own maybe in their teen years .. anybody who has committed a crime and spent time in jail can not take part in the redress scheme.
The Australian Royal Commission and the Police & the Law recognize that Child Sexual Abuse is a crime and not just a sin in Gods sight .
So why aren`t those Priests ,Pastors ,Elders ,Deacons ,or any other person in authority in a secular institution not charged in some way for not reporting this abuse to the appopriate authority when it has been brought to their attention ,in other words they have been complicit in concealing this crime against minors that has been brought to there attention ?
climate change ... who doesn't believe it?
crazy fools and science deniers ... right?.
it seems like it's become the new religion, the new orthodoxy, that must be accepted and believed as gospel and preached to all.. is it ok to be skeptical?.
I think , no ,I believe Incognigo Montoya has the finger on the pulse .
I concur with all you had to say on the subject
what does the mandate to "abstain from blood" mean for jehovah's witnesses freed from the control of the governing body?.
it had previously been understood that the best translation of acts 15: 28-30 was "to abstain from blood.
" however, a careful analysis of the passage shows that the best translation of this passage is "to abstain from (shedding) blood," where the word "pour out," which does not appear in ancient manuscripts and other biblical versions, does.it appears there understood in elliptical form.in the same way it happened in the case of colossians 1: 16-20 where the new world translation of the holy scriptures correctly inserted the word "other" several times, understood there in elliptical form, in the phrase of the original greek "all things ", thus obtaining the correct translation" all (other) things ".even though christianity reaffirms itself in translating this passage as saying that "through him all things were created", because he maintains that jesus is god according to his pagan doctrine of the trinity, multiple biblical passages sustainthe biblical truth that jesus is not jehovah god, but his beloved son that god later used as his creative partner.according to this paul said that "though he existed in the form of god, he did not give consideration to a usurpation, namely, that he should be equal to god, no, rather, he emptied himself and took the form of a slave and he came to be in the likeness of men, more than that, when he was in the manner of a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death, yes, death on a torture stake, for this same reason, also, god he exalted a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above all else, so that in jesus' name every knee of those [who are] in heaven and those who are [over] the earth and those [who are] under the ground, and openly recognize * every tongue that jesus christ is lord for the glory of god the father.
Take care
news reports.
"golf-ball size hail.
" anyone know anyone who was under that?.
I lived in S/E.Qld for 37 years and this was a regular thing that we endured and sometimes the hailstones were tennis ball size and even larger .
So i can sympathize with anyone who has endured a massive hailstone storm ,
My thoughts go out to them and hope they are all safe especially if their are any on this forum who have endured and gone through this storm
climate change ... who doesn't believe it?
crazy fools and science deniers ... right?.
it seems like it's become the new religion, the new orthodoxy, that must be accepted and believed as gospel and preached to all.. is it ok to be skeptical?.
Climate change : I`m a true believing skeptic .:The climate is always changing that`s why we have different seasons ,seriously though the climate goes through changes like the tide goes in and out. We have periods of dry seasons we have periods of wet seasons and everything in between .
How long have humans been monitoring the weather and temperatures ? not very long in the whole scheme of things , I roll my eyes when it is reported that we haven`t had such a high temperature in January since 1926 ?
Oh so you did have such a high temperature then ? What man made pollution caused that ?
Or we haven`t had such widespread floods as these since 1920 ? Oh so you did have these type of floods back then ? What man made pollution caused that ?
The earths weather patterns are governed by cycles ,and those cycles could be over 100 years or maybe 500 years ? who knows ? or maybe even a thousand years .
I can remember as a young kid living in Melbourne Aust. and before 1940s/50`s when it was not uncommon during the summer months for the temperatures to reach 114-116 deg. F. for 5 or 6 days in a row .
I don`t recall anything like that happening in the last 20 or 30 + years or so .
The climate warms up and it cools down and so on and so on and has done so always.
http://www.criba.com.ar/en/works/116-asociacion-de-los-testigos-de-jehova.
project detail.
type: special projects.
Why indeed nowwhat ? why indeed .
If that doesn`t wake up a few more Witnesses who knows what will .
On the one hand they say the end is imminent and on the other hand they are building for the future ?
Oh of course after Armageddon the GB members still need to live in an "OLD WORLD " luxury complex while the rank & file live in a field of pandas and lions etc.
i was listening to an overnight abc radio broadcast with rod quin ?in the early hours of the morning 14/3/19.
and with him was a guest of the labour party of newcastle nsw ,sorry her name escapes me.. and some issues were raised that i never knew of, that survivors might have .hopefully i can articulate them here as i understand it.
and remember it ....we all know the trauma that a child will go through with being abused and some will go off the rails because of that and commit some crimes of their own maybe in their teen years .. anybody who has committed a crime and spent time in jail can not take part in the redress scheme.
I was listening to an overnight ABC radio broadcast with Rod Quin ?in the early hours of the morning 14/3/19. And with him was a guest of the labour Party of Newcastle NSW ,sorry her name escapes me.
And some issues were raised that I never knew of, that survivors might have .Hopefully I can articulate them here as I understand it. and remember it ....We all know the trauma that a child will go through with being abused and some will go off the rails because of that and commit some crimes of their own maybe in their teen years .
Anybody who has committed a crime and spent time in jail can not take part in the redress scheme. ?
A victim who called in was disgusted with the whole process of the Redress Scheme and said he would not be a part of it.His reason was that the forms you had to fill in going over once again with what you went through and then that was to be presented to the very organization that was responsible for his abuse was just too much to take.
Also a person who has already given testimony at the ARC would have to go through this process again ? Why not just use his or her testimony that was given at the ARC ?
Another problem was ,Why does an organization that`s under investigation and has a history of abuse have to sign up to the Redress Scheme anyway ?
It has now been about 5 years since this inquiry was started and at the end of the ARC they were given 2 years to sign up about one year has already passed and their is still about 100 institutions that have not yet signed up to the redress Scheme.
Why are they dragging their feet ? They have had more than enough time to get there house in order and to comply with the ARC recommendations.
Which brings me to another point : Not all of the ARC recommendations have been adopted some were deviated from and watered down.
And lastly what I want to bring up is that there is no big stick to make any organization sign up at all to the National redress Scheme if they so choose not to do so .They cannot be forced to or made to sign up as it stands at present .
They can only be named and shamed or put under a moral / ethical pressure to sign up .
good luck with that one .
There is one other important point that I just can`t bring to mind right now, Oh if somebody has already gone through a court case and received a settlement and has had a gag order placed on them they cannot challenge the organization again even if what they received was well below what they could receive in compensation under the redress scheme
If anybody else can shed light on this feel free to do so
smiddy
i'm new here, but i've been an ex-witness since 2015 (not disfellowshipped, faded and inactive but no longer believing) and i'm working on an art/personal project gathering the bapstism photos of many different ex-witnesses.
i am asking that anyone who feels comfortable with it send me (private message me) their photos that they or others took on the day of their baptism (before, after, or during).
i will not post these online anywhere or publish them.
As sir 82 says there are plenty of baptism photo`s in old WT & awake magazines so do your own research .
On the other hand Welcome to this forum AGP you could learn a lot by sticking around here .
Maybe you shouldn`t be asking for such personal information on your very first post ?
We know nothing about you .