A report on a TV station this morning stated that it cost the Embassy 9 Million dollars to keep him for 7 years ?Most of which was for security .
I think I would go mad if I was cooped up in one place for 7 years .
Hang on I was a JW for 33 years
do you think he’s a hero?
do you sympathize with him or do you feel he’s really a bad guy?.
A report on a TV station this morning stated that it cost the Embassy 9 Million dollars to keep him for 7 years ?Most of which was for security .
I think I would go mad if I was cooped up in one place for 7 years .
Hang on I was a JW for 33 years
What is this overwhelming guilt that consumes him ? That he is still married according to a piece of paper ? And she is out of the picture anyway having deserted him ?
Your staring at a life of misery with this man,its your choice.It sounds more like your a sex object to him rather than a soul mate.
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just stumbled upon this .found it so appropriate for the jdubs n wbts ,so sharing.. zing.
And some Jdubs give up the life of their loved ones to uphold policies like blood transfusions which are out of the realm and scope of the Bible .
The blood policies in the bible are to do with dietary laws ,not eating of blood etc.And nothing to do with transfusions etc. Which were unheard of in those days .
King Davids men broke the law eating blood and Jehovah had no problem with that simply because their life was at stake ,they were in danger of starving to death .
And Jehovah never chastised them or rebuked them for disobeying his law.
additionally - if this shunning rule was removed and everyone was made aware of the dirty secrets of the org.. (e.g.
csa-arc / un membership / malawi - mexico contrast / etc.).
would those leaving be higher?.
I think it might be closer to 75%- even 85% that jw`s stay in the religion. Crazyguy2
The other 25% -!5% of JW's is either they had a lobotomy or they are just brain dead ?
one of the most perplexing puzzles of daniel is the differing way the author referred to the length of time the rebuilt temple would be defiled during the persecution of antiochus epiphanes iv (175-163 bc).
historically, the period is known with some precision; the heathen altar (the "abomination of desolation" of daniel and 1 maccabees) was installed on 15 chislev 167 bc and the temple was rededicated on 25 chislev 164 bc -- a period of almost exactly 3 years (1 maccabees 1:57, 4:52).
the desolation of jerusalem however began some several months prior to this (cf.
Only she could answer that, however i agree with you her scholarship was awesome .
Newbies and lurkers would do well just to use the search option and look at some of her posts .
i will be eternally grateful to leah remini for her docuseries on scientology.
it is what helped me to start waking up and seeing the org for what it is.
i remember thinking huh “they call it disconnecting, we do the same thing.
well that was no fun at all, just got a visit to invite me to the last supper memorial.
haven't had a call for a long long time.
i tried to engage them about following bible not watchtower, they just kept changing the subject as they have always done but this time every challenge was met with "we are not perfect,the slave is not perfect" and "we don't want to have a debate".
Thanks for the prompt reply Tantalon and I appreciate your concern for us older folks LOL.
i’m fairly new so i don’t know everyone’s backstory.
how did you realize the organization was false?.
If i didn`t welcome you before HBF I do so now . With me and my family it was not any one thing but an accumulation of many things over the years that individually at the time didn`t mean much but all adds up overtime .
To the point you just can`t ignore it anymore and the penny drops .Somethings just not right and then you start to investigate a little bit more.
And Bingo the rosy coloured glasses fall off and the scales across my eyes fell off also and I/we saw the religion for what it really is .
My wife and I were in it for 33 years and brought our two sons up in it regrettably ,but thankfully we are all out now.
Take care .
additionally - if this shunning rule was removed and everyone was made aware of the dirty secrets of the org.. (e.g.
csa-arc / un membership / malawi - mexico contrast / etc.).
would those leaving be higher?.
the unofficial shunning of former JW who are neither DA or DF; they are shunned even though the rules don't strictly say JW must do that. Fundamentalist religionists think and act black and white, us vs them,
My DIL has been shunned by her parents and siblings for the past 15 years simply because she no longer attended the JW religion she was never DF or DA`d she just walked away from the religion
I say shame on them ,she is a lovely girl.and I`m proud of her and couldn`t ask for a better DiL.
I would be proud enough to call her my daughter .
And they say JW`s don`t break up family`s , I`ve got news for them .THEY DO .
well that was no fun at all, just got a visit to invite me to the last supper memorial.
haven't had a call for a long long time.
i tried to engage them about following bible not watchtower, they just kept changing the subject as they have always done but this time every challenge was met with "we are not perfect,the slave is not perfect" and "we don't want to have a debate".
Tantalon , I`m just curious about what age bracket your callers were ? male or female ?
"we are not perfect,the slave is not perfect" and "we don't want to have a debate".
And they identify and call themselves Jehovah`s Witnesses ? pretty pathetic really .