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  fading away quietly

  by DIM in

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  my wife and i are moving 3000 miles away so that we can fade away as jehovah's witnesses.

  i am looking for suggestions as to what i should do about our publisher record cards (keep them in pa?, get them forwarded to seattle?

  ) so that we can start our lives on the west coast with a fresh start and so we'll just be left alone...any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

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  DIM:

  We were in "The Truth" for 30 years and always felt bad that neither of us had any family who were JWs. Now, that is something we are very grateful for. That will make it tougher for you. We have JW friends back in Wisconsin that we stay in touch with but so far we haven't told them that we quit meetings and unless they come right out and ask or come to visit, they won't know the difference. I don't think either will happen. I guess my advice is to take one step at a time. Make the move and then when it comes up, tell relatives you haven't been "making the meetings lately". Your schedules are very busy and conflict with meeting times and just let it evolve from there. You never know, maybe some of the relatives will wake up eventually, too.
  What do they think of the UN scandal?
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  fading away quietly

  by DIM in

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  my wife and i are moving 3000 miles away so that we can fade away as jehovah's witnesses.

  i am looking for suggestions as to what i should do about our publisher record cards (keep them in pa?, get them forwarded to seattle?

  ) so that we can start our lives on the west coast with a fresh start and so we'll just be left alone...any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

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  DIM:

  We moved a year ago from Wisconsin to Arizona. We told the Elders that we would be renting for awhile and didn't know exactly what area we would end up in so when we settled in a congregation they would be contacted. At that time we were still attending meetings but having a lot of doubts. We attended some meetings here but found no one was the least bit interested in us. That made it easy to stop going to meetings. When we moved into our new house we never told them. No one has ever checked on us. Our son and his family checked out several congregations and found that after they found out he wasn't an elder or MS, they had no interest in him or his family. They stopped going and no one ever checks on them either. My conclusion is that most of the time, they really don't care what becomes of you. As soon as you are out the door, you are forgotten. Just think about others who moved away from you congregation and how soon they were forgotten. Moving away is really an easy way to get out.
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  Churches of Christendom worse than JWs.

  by Undecided in

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  my wife is a saved christain.

  she believes all that crap.

  her sister playes the piano and sings in the churches.

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  Ken P.
  <<to hell with all religion>>

  AMEN. I don't have a swing in my back yard yet, but I am working on it.

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  Horoscopes

  by TR in

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  here's what mine said today:.

  of all the signs of the zodiac, you, aquarius, will be affected most by the cosmic shift that is taking place.

  for the past three years, you have been seeking freedom in every sector of your life, with little regard for the impact on the people around you.

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  I have the same birth sign as my jerk father-in-law. I would hate to think I am anything like him. My husband has the same birhtday as Charles Manson (Nov 12). Horoscopes are sometimes fun to read but I sure don't believe them.
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  agnostic.....reality?

  by msil in

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  i am agnostic.

  (see no fancy writing stuff).

  i dont know if god exists (i think he must - but i dont know).

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  msil:

  I, too, have been wondering about the demon thing. I have had several past experiences that I thought were demon related but now I wonder if they could have been some sort of other spirits. They were not my imagination playing tricks either. Example: We moved into a house and started hearing someone walking around upstairs. If we were down in the basement rec room, then the walking would be in the kitchen right above us. If we had company, they would hear it also. At night things would fly around the basement, like a pail, making terrible noise. When we started having the book study at our home, it all stopped. When we moved to another home, this one new, we let someone store their car in our garage under the house. Right away I started having
  trouble with something kicking the bed under me or the couch under me or the back of my seat in the car. When that car was removed from our garage, it all stopped. The car owner sold the car right away so he must have been having trouble too. There were a couple other similar experiences. I thought it was all demons. Maybe not. I thought , too, that Jesus talked about demons and since I believed in demons, that proved the existance of Jesus and then of course, God. Now I don't know what to believe.

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  Bumper stickers

  by target in

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  saw this one the other day.

  "jesus loves you!

  everyone else thinks you're and asshole"

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  Saw this one the other day. "Jesus loves you! Everyone else thinks you're and asshole"
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  Stupid things that happened as a Witness...

  by ballistic in

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  anyone got any stupid questions they were asked or things that happened as a witness?.

  when i was at school, a kid asked me "if you don't celebrate birthdays, how do you know how old you are?".

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  We were just weeks away from the Presidential election when my mother made the comment that since JWs don't vote, they should not get any government benefits. With glee I pointed out to her that she had never voted in her entire life and she had no excuse. At least I had a reason. That year she went and voted.
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  Stupid things that happened as a Witness...

  by ballistic in

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  anyone got any stupid questions they were asked or things that happened as a witness?.

  when i was at school, a kid asked me "if you don't celebrate birthdays, how do you know how old you are?".

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  My mother, who was not a JW, said we did not believe in Jesus if we didn't even celebrate Christmas. I told her that Jesus himself did not celebrate Christmas. She said "Of course not! He was Jewish!"
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  "Hey there all you lurkey ones..."

  by Simon in

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  hmmn, doesn't quite work does it?

  ok...we'll stick with 'thirsty' then .

  why not register and make a post or two...ask a question...make a statement...whatever !.

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  Thanks everyone for the encouragement. Stealth, LOL, the target is for the several car accidents I have been in. I always seem to be the target. Stop signs don't count. They just plow into me.
  OK, now for something that has always bothered me. This business of Satan being given 6000 years to prove his claim, otherwise the angels in heaven may believe him. In Revelation we are told that he took 1/3 of the angels with him anyhow. Had he been destroyed right away, he couldn't have done that, and as for the other angels, they would have seen what happens to terrorist angels. So just to prove a point, mankind has to go through terrible suffering. It doesn't matter, though, because they will get resurrected in the end. I think it does matter to those doing the suffering. And He is a god of love?
  And why did the miracles have to stop?
  I do believe in God and the angels because of the demons. I have had a few different experiences with the demons myself and know of a couple of others who have also. I know they exist and they came from somewhere.
  What really bothers me know is the "kick myself" syndrome. I look back over the last 30 years and I feel so stupid. When my husband's younger sister married, I made her wedding dress. We were very close, but we did not attend the wedding because it wasn't right to be in a church. The many family gatherings we missed because they were for birthdays or whatever. The really good job my husband quit when he wanted to get baptized because it was second shift. The list is very long. I lie awake at night thinking about all the stupid, stupid things we did for the truth.
  Next Friday my son is taking his wife out for her 25th birthday. First time. He says it is something to celebrate. She is now old enough to rent a car. LOL. She runs her own internet business but can't rent a car. So I get the little grand kids. I am so glad they will not be raised with the who is good enough for whom in the congregation. If Daddy isn't a servant, the kids are not good enough. 25 years in that last congregation. It feels so good to never see it again."The Truth will set you free". No doubt about it.

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  Lots more ranting to come. How about some of my "demon" stories?
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  "Hey there all you lurkey ones..."

  by Simon in

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  hmmn, doesn't quite work does it?

  ok...we'll stick with 'thirsty' then .

  why not register and make a post or two...ask a question...make a statement...whatever !.

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  OK, I have been lurking for awhile. I have found this board to be most interesting.
  I stopped going to meetings nine months ago and have been researching ever since.
  The things I have seen go one in the 30 years I spent as a JW convinced me that no way is that Jehovah's organization. Some things I have had in my favor: neither my husband or I have any relatives who are JWs. None. We moved half way across the country along with our son and his family. They have also stopped attending meetings. That means the JWs in our new location do not know us. That makes it easier. There are a couple of them from back home who keep in contact. I guess it is time to level with them.
  My main issues were the "new Light" nonsense and the idea that the elders were all appointed by holy spirit. One of the elders from our former congregation had sons show up on his doorstep that he had fathered by two different women before he married and learned the truth. He knew these boys were growing up fatherless and poor and "without the truth" and yet the holy spirt appointed him. Yea, right! And he was openly prejudice, which was interesting since these boys were conceived with black women.
  When a young black brother asked his daughter for her phone number, he threatened this brother at the assembly with bodily harm. When we reported it to our presiding overseer, he just laughed and said "Well you know how ***** is, he is protective of his girls".
  Well, when his boys showed up, it wasn't to start a father-son relationship! They came to tell him what they thought of him.
  Another story that really irked me was that a sister who was baptized with me later got a real aggresive cancer and was going through a real bad time fighting it. She became really depressed and attempted suicide so she was promptly disfellowshipped. That was sick!
  Like everyone else, I have a whole basket full of stories.
  Yup, freedom has a whole new meaning for me.

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