I see my mother!
Tried all my life to not be like her. Here I am, coming up on 57 years old, don't have a picture of her anywhere in the house, but she sneaks into my mirror every chance she gets
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i see everything falling apart.
i have to suck it in; strike the right pose and choose the best angle to keep from grossing myself out.. what do you see?.
i'm 58 years old; what do i expect to see?.
I see my mother!
Tried all my life to not be like her. Here I am, coming up on 57 years old, don't have a picture of her anywhere in the house, but she sneaks into my mirror every chance she gets
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Frannie
ROFL!!!!!!
Well said!
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when their actions spill outside of the congregation and get in the newspapers, there is no hushing it up.
the stories i am about to tell are factual, but the names have been changed to protect the guilty.. many years ago in a small neighboring town, there was a small mexican restaurant that was owned by a non jw who employed jw relatives and nonrelatives.
it was a popular place.
Willy:
That is an interesting idea. Some very strange books have found their way into being published. My favorite: "How To Shit In The Woods"
We could have "A Collection Of Tales From Recovering X-JWs and Other Insanities"
We would probably have to write volumes!
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love it when someone is trying to say something and the tongue chooses to rearrange the wording.
i think my favorite was one sunday a particular ms who had a thing for perfectionism was announcing the song to be sung "jehovah's happy people".
it came out "jehovah's happy peepee".
love it when someone is trying to say something and the tongue chooses to rearrange the wording. I think my favorite was one Sunday a particular MS who had a thing for perfectionism was announcing the song to be sung "Jehovah's Happy People". It came out "Jehovah's Happy PeePee"
Do you have any such happy memories to share?
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This is the way it works:
Jesus said "Love your enemy"
Satan was Jesus' enemy, so now they are best buddies. Without Satan looking for trouble, sin is not an issue. It is all a clean slate.
Wasn't that easy?
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i guess i'll always believe in god and his creation no matter what.. how about you, which side do you lean on...creation or evolution?
I'm with LT, Happy Guy and Brenda.
Of course, having not been there at the time, it is still only guessing.
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for me it was the realization that there was no "faithful & discreet slave", that all the prophecies "proving" that jehovah's witnesses are the only religion approved by god is bogus and the realization that this is a "cult" and there is no real normal sense of love and affection in the "truth".
The one thing that made me finally take out my huge pile of "planted seeds of doubt" was the King Of The North study article followed by the fall of the USSR. I started taking a good look at all the issues and found that I just hated being at meetings and watched the time as the meeting dragged on and on until I could escape. It finally got to where I just could not make myself go anymore. That is when I started searching on the web and found this site. The rest is history.
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when their actions spill outside of the congregation and get in the newspapers, there is no hushing it up.
the stories i am about to tell are factual, but the names have been changed to protect the guilty.. many years ago in a small neighboring town, there was a small mexican restaurant that was owned by a non jw who employed jw relatives and nonrelatives.
it was a popular place.
Another little scandal or two:
We all know how homophobic the Society is and how new Bible Studies are taught that such things do not exist in Jehovah's Organization.
Two different families. Both elders. Both have wife, 3 kids, 2 boys and a girl. Two different cities. Big difference was Elder A was very self righteous and looked down on most of the congregation. His wife had her pedestal too. Elder B was one of the nicest people I ever knew and so was his wife. Both men up and left wife and family for other men. The JW gossip mill was so hot it was shooting flames.
Different outcome for both. Elder A had left his wife and family for his boss! They have been together for years now. His now ex-wife heard about another elder who had just gotten divorced and she promptly set her cap for him. It worked and she had her pedestal back.
Elder B had bad timing. He had his affair back in the early days of Aides, before treatment was available. He was one of the first casualties. It took its tole on his oldest son, who, years later went to prison for murder. In the very early days, Elder B was the PO, and a good one. He studied with his younger brother and "brought him into the truth." That younger brother is the Elder B in my previous story who was PO, but found it was in name only and he ended up booted out the door when he pissed off the Great Elder A who ran the congregation from behind the curtian.
Just another couple lumps under the rug.
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when their actions spill outside of the congregation and get in the newspapers, there is no hushing it up.
the stories i am about to tell are factual, but the names have been changed to protect the guilty.. many years ago in a small neighboring town, there was a small mexican restaurant that was owned by a non jw who employed jw relatives and nonrelatives.
it was a popular place.
When their actions spill outside of the congregation and get in the newspapers, there is no hushing it up. The stories I am about to tell are factual, but the names have been changed to protect the guilty.
Many years ago in a small neighboring town, there was a small Mexican restaurant that was owned by a non JW who employed JW relatives and nonrelatives. It was a popular place. Everyone was surprised when they heard on the news that the restaurant had been robbed, and by a girl and her boyfriend, no less! Eyes really opened wide when the two were arrested and it was revealed that she was a JW who had this non JW boyfriend tucked away on the side. No one suspected. Nice family.
Fast forward several years. The restuarant owner has opened a second one in the bigger town where I lived. It was managed by a JW MS and his wife. Nice young family. We will call him Fred. Second family in the same congregation-she an ass kisser elder wife wanna be whose husband studies but no progress, husband does just enough to stay involved in what the family is involved in without getting sucked in. Daughter has just graduated from high school and announces that she wants her own apartment. Mom thinks it is great, will help daughter learn independence. We will call daughter- Jenny. Mom seems to forget that when she was that age, she had an apartment and that is how she ended up pregnant by her now non JW husband. Little Jenny is a good little actress. She already has the boyfriend tucked away- Mom is completely fooled. A few months later we hear about the upcoming wedding and Mom is just sick about it. Wedding takes place without Mom and Dad. Are you ready for this??? A few months later, on a Thursday night, during the meeting, the police come to the KH to fetch Fred because there has been an attempted robbery in his restaurant, which is only a short distance from the KH. When they get back to the restaurant, Fred sees the robber and lo and behold! It is Jenny! According to the police, she entered the restaurant while her husband stayed in the car with his burglary record. She had a gun and went up to the girl at the cash register and demanded money. She was focussed on what she was doing and did not notice that in the booth nearby sat a disfellowshipped guy from the congregation. He snuck up from behind and tackled her. Police were there in minutes! Husband in the car took off. Jenny is being handcuffed and crying that she is pregnant. This was for sympathy and the hope that they would not jail a pregnant young lady. The pregnancy was a lie and they did not feel sorry for her. Her husband turned himself in and says it was all Jenny's idea- the robbery and the restaurant. In a town that size, stuff like this is headline news . It was all over the newspaper for days as the story unfolded. Field service was difficult with everyone talking about the JW robber. Jenny's parents and lawyer reason with her and she decides she does not want to spend a few years in jail so she agrees to testify against her husband. With his record, it was not hard to convince the judge that she was his victim. He, of course, divorced her. She was disfellowshipped and ordered to not be anywhere near Fred, his family or the restaurant. She gets off with time served and moves back home with her parents. She shows up at all the meetings-the same meetings Fred and family attend. Only one congregation in town so what is Fred to do? And what is Fred's uncle to think? He hires JWs because he has been told about how honest they are such good workers. He has been robbed twice-both times by JWs. And what causes these nice young women to go bad? Is it repressed hatred for the religion they were raised in? They didn't just rob any old business- it had to be one run by a JW.
Not a rug big enough to sweep all that under.
Oh, and the disfellowshipped guy hanging out in the restuarant, he abused his wife and kids for years and she finally bailed and got a court order to keep him from the kids. The elders did nothing when he beat up his first wife and put her in the hospital. Don't know why they took action this time. So he was the hero.
I wonder how you explain all that to a person who is studying and is buying the crap about what perfect Christians the JWs are.
One thing I did get out of 30 years in the cult- a lot of stories! Maybe I should write a book. I think I will call it "What Is That Really Big Lump Under The Rug?"
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i know this type of thread has been done before but i am sure not all the stories were mentioned.
anyone have any good ones?
any elders, co, do, gb, etc.
Roy, this was a really long time ago that Elder A decided he did not want to be PO and his wife told me that there were a lot of "nonsense" complaints and he wanted to get out of the limelight. I do not recall anymore now what the complaints were but I remember thinking at the time that they were very ligit. Like the wizard of OZ, it is easier to run things from behind the curtian. He now has things just how he wants them, sons and son-in-law are elders right along with him. He is VERY well known over a large area. Has a lot of connections. Damn I am glad to be outta there!
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