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  My Grandfather-hours from death; what 's next?

  by ashitaka in

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  my mother called me and asked me to pick up my sister because my grandfather is going to pass away in a few hours.

  i don't know why this is moving me so much, but it is.

  it's like my history is passing away.

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  Ash:
  I am so sorry to hear about your grandfather's empending passing. I can tell you what helped me cope when my father passed away 29 years ago. Ask for a memento, something that meant a lot to him. Having that item close and holding it helps.
  My father was in his fifties when I was born so he was more like a grandfather to me. He used to put me on his lap when I was a small child and play his harmonica for me. I absolutely loved it. I asked for that harmonica when he died and it is my greatest treasure. When I hold that harmonica I feel like a part of him is still with me.

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  Just a couple Questions...

  by jolly_green_giant in

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  i was just wondering if anyone knows what year the jw's banned smoking and celebrating christmas.

  plus, anyone here still know active jw's that still smoke secretly?

  i know a couple that do.

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  Marilyn:
  Secret alcoholics! We had a pioneer elder and his special pioneer wife who came to meetings with alcohol on their breaths (morning meetings) and carried a flask with them out in service. They fought terribly. They were the two most judgemental JWs I ever saw. Very self righteous duo.

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  Should JW's Visit A Hypnotist?

  by Englishman in

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  no!.

  i recall that the wt stated that one's mind was open to demon possession when in a hypnotic trance.. this is quite curious, during the 50's my dad dabbled in hypnotism prior to becoming a jw, one of his old pals told me that he saw him hypnotise a woman who then allowed him to stick pins in her thumb without her feeling any pain at all.. i have seen a hypnotist transfix a friend of mine to the floor, he was unable to move without the hypnotists ok.. i also have another friend who uses a light trance to help people overcome their fears, it seems to work well on peple who have to give seminars or perform on stage.. anyone here ever been hypnotised?.

  englishman.. bring on the dancing girls!

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  I went to a psychologist a few years ago, while yet a JW, for help in dealing with issues invloving my mother and my childhood. The psychologist used hypnosis to take me back to my childhood and also to change my reaction to the things my mother did. I was aware of what was going on the whole time. It worked beautifully and helped me a great deal. If only eight of my brothers and sisters would do the same. They still suffer with their memories.
  Of course this was something I could not mention to other JWs at the time.

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  It's just dawned on me...

  by Billygoat in

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  ...that jw's have a hard time forgiving others because they themselves are rarely forgiven for their own sins.

  according to their beliefs jehovah keeps track of every detail of your life...good and bad.

  that even if you are humble and repent of your sins, that there is still no true forgiveness until the new system.

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  Andi:
  Before I logged on today, I was thinking about how guilty I feel for having raised my son in the borg, although he is out now. And then I started thinking about parents who shun their DF children for years, and what if eventually those parents come to their senses and get out of the borg themselves. Can you imagine the guilt they would feel? But then that is one more thing that would keep them in the borg, not wanting to face that kind of guilt.

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  You asked for it by the way you dressed.

  by tyydyy in

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  does the thinking of the borg still define your morals and ethics?

  has leaving the witnesses changed your views on some of the 'rules' or are they the same?

  is the lack of discipline still the reason for teenage violence?.

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  My son has grown a goatee since leaving the borg. When he sent their family picture to some friends back in Wisconsin who are still JWs, they had a fit! We are finding that it is very hard to continue some friendships with JWs after we leave because our values change.
  I find it very irritating when I look in our closet and find that half the clothes in there are "meeting" clothes. We are planning a big rummage sale and a lot of that will go.
  I will not be surprised if my son gets a small tattoo or gets an ear pierced. Meanwhile, he won't be sending any more pictures of himself to any JWs

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  History channel & Noah's flood

  by target in

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  there was an interesting segment on the history channel last night.

  they didn't mention noah, actually.

  it was about the asteroids and such that have hit the earth.

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  There was an interesting segment on the History channel last night. They didn't mention Noah, actually. It was about the asteroids and such that have hit the earth. They were showing some of the huge holes made by them and they said that northern Russia was hit by a bunch of them at once way back when and that the force was so great that it shifted the earth's axis 30 to 40 degrees. The result was that the area that is now the northpole was warm and suddenly became freezing cold. They specifically mentioned the woolly mammoth with the green foliage in his mouth and said there also is coral up there. That part that had been cold then melted and caused all kinds of flooding. The JWs always bring up the woolly mammoth thing. Well, that explains that.

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  Were you atheist/agnostic BEFORE you came here?

  by gumby in

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  something has puzzeled me for a long time since i came to this board.

  first i would like to say i'm not judging any in what i'm about to say as we all are at different places in our lives and i respect that.. here it is: at what point in your life did you no longer believe in god or believe the bible?.

  how many came to this conclution after coming to this db?.

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  I agree with Prisca. I beleive in God as a higher power. I do not beleive in the God that the JWs taught about. I came to that conclusion after coming to this board, but not because of this board. It was all the other research that I was doing. I do not believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God or that it is accurate. That part is from coming to this board.

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  Why prayer and Does it work?

  by Undecided in

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  why i began thinking on prayer was the request from my spanish neighbour to my wife.

  they requested that she come down and pray for his/her child who has been sick.

  my wife believes in prayer and says she knows it works.

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  Dazed and Ken:

  It seems there are a number of us visiting this site that have an interest in these "alternative" subjects. After I left the borg, I felt like I was in limbo. I felt no need to run off and join some other religion. I was drawn to the subject of Energy Healing. I found material on the Indigo Adult and children to be very interesting.

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  JWs and grasping at straws

  by target in

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  i had a phone call from a die hard jw friend from back in wisconsin.

  i had told her recently about the un thing.

  she just knew there had to be some logical explanation.

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  ItsJustMe:

  Newspaper articles do have an impact. Many years ago back in Wisconsin there was an article in the MIlwaukee paper, complete with picture, about an apostate. His story stayed with me and was the seeds of doubt for me. It seemed that back in the 60s homosexuality was not grounds for divorce. This guy found out that his wife was having a lesbian affair. He divorced her. He was disfellowshipped for it. Many years went by and the "new light" said that now homosexuality is grounds for divorce after all. He had spent years being shunned for something that was no longer wrong. I couldn't see how that could have been from Jehovah. What is right is right. It doesn't change back and forth. Sex is sex no matter who it is with. I never forgot that article.
  I sure wish we would get a real good one about the UN thing in the Sunday paper. That they would sit up and take notice of. But then they would start rationalizing and making excuses. Some people are just determined to be idiots!

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  JWs and grasping at straws

  by target in

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  i had a phone call from a die hard jw friend from back in wisconsin.

  i had told her recently about the un thing.

  she just knew there had to be some logical explanation.

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  I had a phone call from a die hard JW friend from back in Wisconsin. I had told her recently about the UN thing. She just knew there had to be some logical explanation. The CO is there this week and she told him about it. He said he had not heard anything about it and that there is no way that the WTS would do that. It is probably one of these of organizations who uses Jehovah's name and we just misunderstand.
  This friend is not on the internet. I had e-mailed the information to another sister in that congregation but she is gone to Florida right now. When she got the e-mail, she asked an elder and he said it is just apostate lies.
  So I told this friend to call the other sister's husband (who stopped going to meetings years ago when he had his fill of the elders) and have him print it out for her so she can show it to the CO this week.
  She ended the conversation by telling me that Satan is after me and I better be careful not to stumble my son and daughter-in-law. (They left the borg several months ago, too)
  This sister has a disfellowshipped daughter who is a single mother struggling to make it on her own. They are careful not to "associate" with her when they see the baby. When the daughter needed a car, her father had a piece of crap car that should have went to the junkyard and he SOLD it to her for $500, which she had to borrow. He said that if she were "in the Truth" he could have given it to her. Can't help her out otherwise. I had such a strong urge to smack her upside the head. They didn't attend their first daughter's wedding because the JW she was marrying was not baptized. The second daughter married a JW who abused her terribly and she divorced him and eventually married a really nice non JW. They did not go to that wedding either. It was not proper to marry out of the Truth. These people have ripped their family apart with this JW nonsense but they are sure they are doing the right thing. What idiots!!!

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