as most of you already know, the jehovah's witnesses are covering an article in their august kingdom ministry to be discussed the weeks of 8/19 and 8/26 which details how they are to shun and avoid those who are no longer members of their organization, even immediate family members.. .
undoubtedly this article has been written to reinforce to the rank&file jehovah's witnesses the shunning policy, so as to tighten the ranks and prevent members from having the opportunity to learn the abundant contradictions and hypocrisies found within watchtower doctrine and practice from any who may have left.. this policy also serves to divide families and attempt to shame or abuse those whom have chosen to no longer be jehovah's witnesses, for whatever reason.. that much is obvious.
in recent days this topic has been discussed in detail in various threads.
I was shunned but I was fortunate in that I had no family what so ever in the borg, just my husband and nine year old son and they stood by me.
When we moved across the country, it was easy to leave it all behind, just the 'so called friends' and I don't miss a single one of them. It is such a joke that they talk about all the love they have among them.
I guess I had it easy compared to most.
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the following article is lengthy so i highlighted the "intersting" parts.
feel free to just read the highlights.. also, i added some commentary at the end.. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/a43828-2002aug4.html.
housing vouchers no magic key .
Ah, but she was to wait on Jehovah. He will provide! Yeah, he sure came through for her all right. All the stories we heard at assemblies about people in need finding an envelope under the door with money in it, etc. Never happened to anyone I knew who was waiting and waiting and waiting on Jehovah.
I remember once when our car broke down soon after leaving the assembly in Madison Wisconsin. We stood on the side of the highway watching family after family from our congregation drive by. They all looked at us but not one slowed down or stopped to offer help. And this right after the great 4 day spiritual meal they had just had. At the following Thursday meeting they talked about how upbuild they were from the assembly. What hipocrites!
It was things like that that I filed away in my little memory folder. Finally it got so full I had to take it out and look at all the things that had accumulated and knew I could not live with it anymore.
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at work last week, i was sitting in the break room doing some of my paperwork, there was a couple worldly girls sitting at a table--penny and lisa, then walked in sister tammie, and sat beside them.
i rolled my eyes as i normally do, for sister tammy is the dub of all dubs, always at the hall, always leaving awake rags all over the place, always looking for converts..... okay, i'm there trying to act inconspicuous, for sister tammie is a sister in law to my ex-dumb dub boyfriend, and well, i'm pretty much now satanic in nature to all in that particular congreg.
for what extremes i had to go to, to get him out of my life...but me easedropping on their conversation, at times is amusingly worth it.. "so, how did the doctor's appt.
Thewiz:
I think the problem here is that when we talk about something dumb that Jdubs have done, some can get the impression that we mean that it was done and it was dumb BECAUSE they were Jdubs. That is not the case. I have relatives who are dumber than any Jdub I ever knew. Let me see if I can think of a few.Hmmm. My husband's sister insisted that if a women does not douche after sex, she will get fat. She also said that if you don't dust your doors regularly you get worms in the house. When she got pregnant, she asked her father where the baby would come out. Now that I am talking about dumb things a relative said, does that mean I think all relatives are dumb? Well, yes, but that is besides the point.
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at work last week, i was sitting in the break room doing some of my paperwork, there was a couple worldly girls sitting at a table--penny and lisa, then walked in sister tammie, and sat beside them.
i rolled my eyes as i normally do, for sister tammy is the dub of all dubs, always at the hall, always leaving awake rags all over the place, always looking for converts..... okay, i'm there trying to act inconspicuous, for sister tammie is a sister in law to my ex-dumb dub boyfriend, and well, i'm pretty much now satanic in nature to all in that particular congreg.
for what extremes i had to go to, to get him out of my life...but me easedropping on their conversation, at times is amusingly worth it.. "so, how did the doctor's appt.
The Wiz:
Cranberyy Juice is a known cure but you drink it!!! If you had ever looked at a picture of female anatomy you would know that douching has nothing to do with the bladder. And as far as it just being women who are stupid, her husband stood there agreeing with her.
You asked "who is the idiot now." It looks like you are.
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at work last week, i was sitting in the break room doing some of my paperwork, there was a couple worldly girls sitting at a table--penny and lisa, then walked in sister tammie, and sat beside them.
i rolled my eyes as i normally do, for sister tammy is the dub of all dubs, always at the hall, always leaving awake rags all over the place, always looking for converts..... okay, i'm there trying to act inconspicuous, for sister tammie is a sister in law to my ex-dumb dub boyfriend, and well, i'm pretty much now satanic in nature to all in that particular congreg.
for what extremes i had to go to, to get him out of my life...but me easedropping on their conversation, at times is amusingly worth it.. "so, how did the doctor's appt.
There really are some real dumb Dub women (and men). I remember one who confided that she had a bladder infection but was taking care of it by douching with carnberry juice. Her husband was standing right there and put in his two cents worth about how that was the best cure. Made me wonder what other cures they used and where they used them.
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my neighbours have been having a party for the last two weeks.
they are both drunks, and spend the day drinking with their mates outside my brothers apartment where i currently live.
i tried to stop them, but as they are convicted violent crims i was at a loss.. now instead of tolerating it i asked the local terrorists for help.
Josephus:
I happen to agree with you. We had a miserable neighbor who we tolerated for about ten years. Arrests and restraining orders do little. If we had known someone who would have been happy to do the job, we would have had it done, too. As it was, we ended up selling our house and moving. One should not have to move because someone else can't behave in a civilized way. Calling the cops does not do much. You have to have 'proof' and even then when we finally had the person arrested, bail was made immediately and things picked up where they had left off within two hours.
I'm with you on this one.
Target
a young man i know has chosen to not be a victim of the borg.
his mother was overheard discussing the situation with another "mature sister".
her explanation of his behavior?
A young man I know has chosen to not be a victim of the Borg. His mother was overheard discussing the situation with another "mature sister". Her explanation of his behavior? "He just does not know how to take direction". They take mind control and give it a new name and claim it is a desirable thing.
It made me think of how many times over the years I heard that term, "take direction", and all the other many terms they use. If they actually called it mind control, everyone would see them for what they are.
What Borg term bothered you the most, and what did it really mean?
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Edited by - target on 30 July 2002 11:2:16
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in which part of the planet are you?
i'm in the sf bay area, ca, u.s.a. i have been there for 17 years.. how about you?
Just west of Phoenix Arizona in Avondale
we are still trying to put an end to this stalker stuff.
so far there still is not enough hard evidence for the police to do anything, but that white car that we saw checking us out the night we were parked outside watching our son's house has been back in the neighborhood and we now have the license tag number.
the problem is i can't find a web site where i can check out who the car belongs to without paying $100.
We are still trying to put an end to this stalker stuff. So far there still is not enough hard evidence for the police to do anything, but that white car that we saw checking us out the night we were parked outside watching our son's house has been back in the neighborhood and we now have the license tag number. The problem is I can't find a web site where I can check out who the car belongs to without paying $100. Does anyone know of a web site where I can get this information?
I hate just waiting for something more to happen. I have to keep trying to find more information so we can put a stop to this before something really bad happens.
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i need some unbiased advice.it is so hard to know just what to do.
this is the situation.
on father's day my son and his wife and two little boys came over for the morning.
obiwan:
Running down to the police station and telling them that a window was unlocked is not going to get a crew of detectives over there. They want hard evidence. Every bit of what has happened could be explained away. Even the motion detector alarms going off now at 2AM a couple of nights in a row so far. They could say it was a bug flying in front of it. The cops around Phoenix have their hands full (if you have ever watched COPS TV show) and are not going to come running until we have actuall proof.
Where we lived in Wisconsin we had a neighbor who was doing things to us like putting a bunch of broken glass in our driveway. We had no proof that she did it and when the cop went to talk to her she would not answer her door. The cop said there was nothing they could do. But when she called and left a threatening message on our answering machine, we had proof and she was arrested that night.That had gone on for a few years before anything was done. She was bailed back out WITHIN THE HOUR. That is the way the system works. Hysteria does not get the cops doing anything. It is all about proof and they want more reason to investigate than what we can give them right now. And that does not mean that if they catch this guy that anything will happen to him that will keep him away for good.
Sometimes you have to take care of yourself and your's.
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