if you noticed ,they never talk about blood transfusions anymore.
Nonsense again!
If you are active and part of a congregation, they still give out and update their blood cards.
Why Don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses Accept Blood Transfusions?
Posts by Duran
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35Blood decisions are now your problem: WT JULY 2025
by raymond frantz inthe following is from the latest study watchtower july 2025, study article 28, paragraph 17:.
each christian must make up his or her own mind about whether to accept or to reject these fractions.
we may find it a challenge to understand this matter fully, but making decisions like this is part of the load that each of us must carry.
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Duran
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Blood decisions are now your problem: WT JULY 2025
by raymond frantz inthe following is from the latest study watchtower july 2025, study article 28, paragraph 17:.
each christian must make up his or her own mind about whether to accept or to reject these fractions.
we may find it a challenge to understand this matter fully, but making decisions like this is part of the load that each of us must carry.
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Duran
Blood decisions are now your problem: WT JULY 2025
Nonsense!
They are not backtracking on their blood view. This is about blood fractions.
They still say NO whole blood or any 1 of the 4 components. WB-RB-plasma-platelets
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Memorial attendance
by Balaamsass2 incurious.
what was your local memorial attendance like tonight?
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Duran
Who invites someone to a meal and then tells them they aren't worthy to partake? When Jesus instituted the meal in the first century, did he invite any non-participants to come and watch? No. So why does the Watchtower do so?"
Yep! WT teaching that partaking is for so-called 'anointed ones' only, is a very foolish teaching.
The day of the memorial, the Bible reading on their website was Luke 22:7-26.
Here it says:
[ 11 And say to the landlord of the house, ‘The Teacher says to you: “Where is the guest room where I may eat the Passover with my disciples?” 12 And that man will show you a large, furnished upper room. Get it ready there.” 13 So they left and found it just as he had told them, and they prepared for the Passover.]
So, the disciples got the Passover meal ready and later ate it with Jesus. During/after the meal, Jesus took a cup of wine and some bread that was part of that meal, and he did the whole eat/drink (body/blood) part with them.
WT claims that because Jesus did that with only his 12 chosen disciples (11 if Judas left by then as they claim) that that means that partaking is only for chosen ones (anointed).
If that is true, then how about this:
[16 However, the 11 disciples went to Galʹi·lee to the mountain where Jesus had arranged for them to meet. 17 When they saw him, they did obeisance, but some doubted. 18 Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. ]
If WT claims that the partaking of the bread and wine only being done with the 11 equals only 'anointed ones' partaking thereafter, then that would mean that because Jesus only told those same 11 to go make disciples, that only 'anointed ones' would have to preach/teach.
But they (WT) don't claim that the preaching/teaching (their BS) is only for the 'anointed ones'. They claim it has to be done by everyone after they themselves have been taught (lied to). So, then why not everyone partake if the 11 disciples partook and were told to go and make more disciples and all new disciples are expected to go and make new disciples.
The partaking had/has nothing to do with showing/proclaiming that one has been chosen. The eating/drinking of the bread/wine had/has to do with 'proclaiming the death of Jesus'.
[ 26 For whenever you eat this loaf and drink this cup, you keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he comes.]
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Are There any JW Teaching that you DO Agree With?
by NotFormer in(apologies for the typo in the title.
"teaching" should read "teachings".
i misread vanderhoven7's most recent post as being the above.
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Duran
that’s the beauty of a Christian church. You are welcome, even if you may not agree with everything 100%. In the JWs, they kick you out and shun you.
No beauty there, they are just much smarter businesswise than JWs.
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Are There any JW Teaching that you DO Agree With?
by NotFormer in(apologies for the typo in the title.
"teaching" should read "teachings".
i misread vanderhoven7's most recent post as being the above.
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Duran
I’ve been super happy in my liberal church. Let’s see…to answer your question….I like that they don’t do infant baptism. We do that at my church and I’m not into it.
So, you are happy belonging to a church that does things you do not agree with/are not into.
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The point of existence and how it refutes the Trinity
by slimboyfat inrowan williams, the former archbishop of canterbury gave an interesting answer to the somewhat stark question, what’s the point of us existing?
as a christian, my starting point is that we exist because the most fundamental form of activity, energy, call it what you like, that is there, is love.
that is, it’s a willingness that the other should be.
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The point of existence and how it refutes the Trinity
by slimboyfat inrowan williams, the former archbishop of canterbury gave an interesting answer to the somewhat stark question, what’s the point of us existing?
as a christian, my starting point is that we exist because the most fundamental form of activity, energy, call it what you like, that is there, is love.
that is, it’s a willingness that the other should be.
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You say, “So he couldn’t use an angel?” No, because no angel is God. An angel could not pay the debt of mankind’s sin. Nor could an angel bridge the ontological gap between God and man. The Incarnation is not about “trust.” It’s about who is capable of bearing infinite justice and offering infinite love. Only God can redeem man, because only God is the source of life, and only He can restore what was eternally lost.
[ 22 For just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive.]
[5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all—this is what is to be witnessed to in its own due time.]
[ 28 Just as the Son of man came, not to be ministered to, but to minister and to give his life as a ransom in exchange for many.”]
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correspond - have a close similarity; match or agree almost exactly:
Adam was created by God. Adam was God's first human son. God was not created; he has always been and cannot die.
Adam and God are not corresponding of one another.
God's first created spirit angel son made human, is corresponding to Adam.
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[14 “To the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ceʹa write: These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God]
[14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. And we beheld His glory, a glory as of an only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.]
[13He rescued us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of his beloved Son, 14by means of whom we have our release by ransom, the forgiveness of our sins. 15He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation]
[5 Keep this mental attitude in you that was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, although he was existing in God’s form, did not even consider the idea of trying to be equal to God. 7 No, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and became human. 8 More than that, when he came as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death, yes, death on a torture stake.]
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The point of existence and how it refutes the Trinity
by slimboyfat inrowan williams, the former archbishop of canterbury gave an interesting answer to the somewhat stark question, what’s the point of us existing?
as a christian, my starting point is that we exist because the most fundamental form of activity, energy, call it what you like, that is there, is love.
that is, it’s a willingness that the other should be.
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Duran
The divine unity...is a shared essence (ousia), something no creature can attain.
I feel sorry for your Jehovah/Jesus God. He must feel like a failure over his spirit angel creation. It takes God himself to do something because he can't trust his own creation.
Your claim is that Jehovah and Jesus are one in the same, share the same essence, not being created.
You claim that your Jehovah/Jesus God created all 'angel creatures/beings' (his spirit sons) and there are many, many 'angel beings', including Satan, but they are not the same essence of God.
And you claim that your Jehovah/Jesus God created humans, Adam and Eve, (his human children/son and daughter) and they are not the same essence of God.
So, with his (God's) creations of both spirit angels and humans, Satan and other angels and Adam and Eve, failed their creator/were disobedient to him.
Then when he (God) goes about trying to remedy it and offers a ransom life, he says:
"There is not ONE angel spirit son of mine, that I created, that I am able to use as a ransom life, they would all fail me, therefore I have to use myself as my own son because the spirit angel sons that I created could never prove faithful until death as a human, not even ONE of them could."
He goes on to say:
"And then when I use myself as the ransom life, and humans believe that it took the creator himself to do it, because the angels that I created, are not good/faithful/trustworthy enough to do it, when those humans believe that, then I will grant some of them to sit down on my throne and rule with me, but I will never let even ONE of my spirit angel creations do so, NONE of them are worthy for that, even though they are my true spirit sons, I will only let my human sons rule with me."
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The point of existence and how it refutes the Trinity
by slimboyfat inrowan williams, the former archbishop of canterbury gave an interesting answer to the somewhat stark question, what’s the point of us existing?
as a christian, my starting point is that we exist because the most fundamental form of activity, energy, call it what you like, that is there, is love.
that is, it’s a willingness that the other should be.
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Duran
You fear what it would mean if Jesus really is who he claimed to be—the eternal Son, one in being with the Father
When he claimed one with the father he also asked for his followers to be one with each other and with him and his father.
[20 I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word, 21 so that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, so that the world may believe that you sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one. 23 I in union with them and you in union with me, in order that they may be perfected into one, so that the world may know that you sent me and that you loved them just as you loved me.]
I follow the Lamb who is on the same throne as the One seated on it (Rev 22:1).
You are using the wrong verse there to show that both God and the Lamb are on the same throne. At that point they are each on their own separate thrones. When Jesus was resurrected and ascended to heaven is when he sat on his father's throne with him. (At his right hand.) That's where he is still today but he knows he will have his own in the future when he comes, so he was able to say to those who conquer and as a result will rule with him, that they will sit with him on his throne that he will sit on when he comes. Then in New Jerusalem is when God's throne and the Lamb's throne are said to be there.
[2 But this man offered one sacrifice for sins for all time and sat down at the right hand of God,]
[31 “When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne.]
[21 To the one who conquers I will grant to sit down with me on my throne, just as I conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne.]
[22 I did not see a temple in it, for Jehovah God the Almighty is its temple, also the Lamb is.]
[22 And he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of God and of the Lamb]
[3 And there will no longer be any curse. But the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city,]
And one day, you, like everyone else, will bow before Him
That is true, but as God's appointed king. That is God's will, he appointed Jesus to be king for a period of time.
Philippians 2:8-11;1 Corinthians 15:24-28
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"JEHOVAH'S" witnesses: How could WE get the name so wrong????
by BoogerMan inthe "slave's" understanding of the scriptures must be correct, so here's a clarification: ©.
(matthew 10:18) ....before governors and kings for jehovah's sake, for a witness..... (mark 13:9) ...be put on the stand......for jehovah's sake, for a witness to them.
(luke 24:47, 48) .
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