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  Has the Watchtower Faithful Slave become the Evil Slave?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  what evidence suggests to you that the wt f&ds is actually more like the es of matthew 24?.

  45¶who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?.

  46blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.. .

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  Has it occurred to anyone that they were never the “faithful slave” to begin with?
  It isn’t much of a stretch to go from “they had it once, but lost it” to “they probably never had it”.

  That is exactly the case. EIE was spot on bringing up 1919. They claim they were appointed in that year but everything they teach to arrive at that year is a LIE. (607>1914>1918/19)

  In regard to Matthew 24:45-47, verse 45 is merely asking the question of ‘who is’, and verse 46 goes on to state that ‘the slave’ that is found doing so, ‘on the master’s arrival’, ‘is who’ at that time be found to be ‘faithful’ and appointed over the master’s belongings.

  In other words, ‘the slave’ is just a ‘slave’ prior to the master’s arrival and it is up to the master upon his arrival to determine what slave/s are ‘faithful’ or not. It is not up to the slave/s themselves to determine their own faithfulness.

  According to the following scriptures. (Matthew 25:14,19,21,23,26-27 Luke 19:13,15,17,22-23) it can be seen, the master summoned ‘SLAVES’, not faithful ones, nor wicked ones, just ‘SLAVES’. But it is on the master’s arrival that he then determines which of those ‘SLAVES’ were faithful or wicked. The point being is that it is presumptuous for the ‘slave/s’ to consider/call themselves ‘faithful’ presently, when that is something that is for the master to determine/say when he arrives. In fact to the contrary ‘the slaves’ when calling themselves anything, the master himself said what is found at Luke 17:10…
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  Has the Watchtower Faithful Slave become the Evil Slave?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what evidence suggests to you that the wt f&ds is actually more like the es of matthew 24?.

  45¶who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?.

  46blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.. .

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  John does distinguish between. The beast thrown into the lake with the false prophet is the beast from the sea. This takes place right after the waging of war against the one seated on the horse. The scarlet beast is just said to go off into destruction. That corresponds to the time being thrown into the fiery lake.

  Revelation 17:8,12-14

  Revelation 13:3,5,7,8,10;11:2,3
  

  Revelation 13:11-17;19:19,20,21

  Revelation 15:2;20:4
  

  The beast is given its 42-month authority by the 10 kings. That is the time the beast is the 8th king and final king.
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  Has the Watchtower Faithful Slave become the Evil Slave?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  what evidence suggests to you that the wt f&ds is actually more like the es of matthew 24?.

  45¶who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?.

  46blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.. .

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  Did you click the hyperlink and read the Scriptures? What beast does it state that gets thrown into the fiery lake with the false prophet? What beast gets the 42-month authority given to it in which time the MOTB is given out?
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  Has the Watchtower Faithful Slave become the Evil Slave?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  what evidence suggests to you that the wt f&ds is actually more like the es of matthew 24?.

  45¶who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?.

  46blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.. .

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  Wasn't the Beast slain when the League of Nations was scrubbed but rose again as the United Nations?

  No, because when the beast revives is when the 42-month authority is given it. Also, during that time is when the MOTB is given. No such mark or 42 month authority occur in 1945 when the UN came about or since then.
  

  Duran, there's three beasts mentioned by John in the book of Revelation: 1) Beast from the sea = Beast with slain head that healed (Rev. 13:1, 3). This beast is a conglomeration of Daniel's four beasts. 2) Beast from the earth = false prophet (13:11, 12). 3) Beast from the abyss = scarlet-colored wild beast (17:3, 8; cf. 11:7). The first beast was either absorbed by the other beasts or it disappeared from the scene because Jesus only deals with the scarlet-colored wild beast and false prophet during Armageddon (cf. 19:20; 20:10).

  Three mentioned but two are the same. The beast from sea and scarlet are the same. And actually, Jesus deals with the beast from the sea and earth (false prophet) at Armageddon, but because the scarlet is the same as the one from the sea, then yes Jesus deals with the scarlet one at Armageddon.
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  Has the Watchtower Faithful Slave become the Evil Slave?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what evidence suggests to you that the wt f&ds is actually more like the es of matthew 24?.

  45¶who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?.

  46blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.. .

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  The beast has 7 heads, meaning 7 kings. We are supposedly living during the 7th head/king (Which is not the UN). The beast as a whole after the death-stroke on the 7th head will then be the 8th king when the death-stroke gets revived. It is claimed the UN will be that 8th king and that is the point that it will be giving 42-month authority. That has not happened yet therefore the WTS as an NGO to the UN during that time does not matter. They were not riding the beast because the UN is not the beast until it becomes the 8th king.
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  Has the Watchtower Faithful Slave become the Evil Slave?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
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  what evidence suggests to you that the wt f&ds is actually more like the es of matthew 24?.

  45¶who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?.

  46blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.. .

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  Babylon the Great rides the beast. Did they not also ride the beast with Babylon the Great, even just for a few years?

  When you say 'they' (WTS) also did so with BTG, are you saying that WTS is not part of BTG?

  Who is BTG?

  Who is the beast that they rode for a few years?
  
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  Encouraging scriptures for the day

  by Kosonen in

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  hello my friends,.

  here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.

  revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).

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  "If you find it hard to laugh at yourself, I would be happy to do it for you." - Groucho Marx
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  Encouraging scriptures for the day

  by Kosonen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello my friends,.

  here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.

  revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).

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  "I am thankful for laughter, except when milk comes out of my nose." - Woody Allen
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  Encouraging scriptures for the day

  by Kosonen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello my friends,.

  here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.

  revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).

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  “It’s the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year’s Day.”

  – Frank Drebin
  
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  What's next?

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what's next for the world?

  a year ago i edited a map of the world to include some big arrows to tell the story of what is to come.

  and i shared that map with various friends.

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  Democratic senator expresses worries about potential World War III (msn.com)