Posts by Duran

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February 2024 Study Watchtower -

by BoogerMan in

february 2024 study watchtower p. 2 par.

2 - "however, a question may arise: 🤣 what will happen to christ’s “other sheep” who will be serving jehovah faithfully on earth during the “great tribulation”?

(john 10:16; matt.

Duran

[6-1-89 WT – Since 1919 the cleansed and refined members of the anointed remnant have been freed from the unclean, idolatrous religions of Babylon the Great. (Malachi 3:1-3)]

WTS celebrating Christmas is proof they could not have been cleansed/refined during 1914/1918 period resulting in a cleansed/refined people since 1919 onward, because they celebrated the pagan Christmas Holiday for 10 more years after 1919. They celebrated it until 1929.

[1975 Yearbook of Jehovah’s Witnesses p. 147- In Pastor Russell’s day, Christmas was celebrated at the old Bible House in Allegheny, Pennsylvania. Ora Sullivan Wakefield recalls that Brother Russell gave members of the Bible House family five- or ten-dollar gold pieces at Christmas. Mabel P. M. Philbrick remarks: “A custom that certainly would not be carried on today was the celebration of Christmas with a Christmas tree in the Bethel dining room. Brother Russell’s usual ‘Good morning, all’ was changed to ‘Merry Christmas, all.’”]

[7-15-65 WT – I was asked to give an hour talk over a hookup on the subject of Christmas. It was given December 12, 1928, and published in The Golden Age #241 and again a year later in #268. That talk pointed out the pagan origin of Christmas. After that, the brothers at Bethel never celebrated Christmas again.]

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February 2024 Study Watchtower -

by BoogerMan in

february 2024 study watchtower p. 2 par.

2 - "however, a question may arise: 🤣 what will happen to christ’s “other sheep” who will be serving jehovah faithfully on earth during the “great tribulation”?

(john 10:16; matt.

Duran

The Truth About Christmas - YouTube

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Did Geoffrey Jackson lie under oath at the ARC?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i understand he intimated that the faithful slave was not the only spokesman for jehovah god.

he also intimated that corporal punishment was not advocated by the wts.

we're these lies or deception or did they represent the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?.

Duran

Jackson is saying that the GB are not Jehovah's ONLY spokespersons that he is using as such but that the GB are the ONLY ones that make up the F&DS. Clearly, he is referring to ALL JW's as being God's spokespeople.

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Encouraging scriptures for the day

by Kosonen in

jw
friends

hello my friends,.

here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.

revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).

Duran

15 So Haʹgar bore to Aʹbram a son, and Aʹbram named his son, whom Haʹgar bore, Ishʹma·el.

18 So Abraham said to the true God: “O that Ishʹma·el might live before you!” 19 To this God said: “Your wife Sarah will definitely bear you a son, and you must name him Isaac.

18 “‘Neither must you commit adultery.

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Encouraging scriptures for the day

by Kosonen in

jw
friends

hello my friends,.

here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.

revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).

Duran

The Charlie Daniels Band - The Devil Went Down to Georgia - YouTube

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Revelation 13 and 17 Beasts

by Duran in

revelation 17:8-11,12-14. revelation 13:3,5,7,8,10;11:2,3. revelation 13:11-17;19:19,20,21. revelation 15:2;20:4. what beast does it state that gets thrown into the fiery lake with the false prophet?

what beast gets the 42-month authority given to it in which time the motb is given out?.

what beast is the 8th king?.

Duran

The Philadelphia congregation represents all people on earth in the 21st century? Nope. I don't see it like that. It's a stretch.

That is not what I said. The Scriptures speak for themselves.

So unity must be established before the GT.

Unity/refining takes place during the GT/42-month period captivity. That's when those with insight impart understanding to many and where they wash their robes clean in the blood of the Lamb.

All the nations won't fit on the low plain of Jehoshaphat (= Jehovah is judge). Same goes for the Mountain of Megiddo. These I view as a world situation rather than a geographical location.

LOL! I was not claiming that it would be in that geographical location. I was merely showing the timing of the two different judgments. The first that is said to start on God's house is during the time his people are said to be being ruled over/captives by the nations. Then after that captivity period, the nations will then be gathered together.

The reason Jesus will be able to separate sheep/wheat from goats/weeds is because during the GT/8th kings' rule each will prove whom they are during that time. Those that were victorious against the mark will be the sheep an inherit God's kingdom. Those that took the mark will be the goats and receive God's wrath.

I'm not going to go over it again. That would be boring.

Understood. Keep believing as you see fit.

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What's next?

by lastmanstanding in

what's next for the world?

a year ago i edited a map of the world to include some big arrows to tell the story of what is to come.

and i shared that map with various friends.

Duran

They will use these proxy attacks to go after Iran.

Hezbollah fires over 1,000 rockets, Israel warns Iran's proxies (msn.com)

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Revelation 13 and 17 Beasts

by Duran in

revelation 17:8-11,12-14. revelation 13:3,5,7,8,10;11:2,3. revelation 13:11-17;19:19,20,21. revelation 15:2;20:4. what beast does it state that gets thrown into the fiery lake with the false prophet?

what beast gets the 42-month authority given to it in which time the motb is given out?.

what beast is the 8th king?.

Duran

As said, here Jesus is reassuring the first century Philadelphian congegation. As far as I know, it doesn't exist anymore. What was the test? Your guess is as good as mine.

If anyone has an ear, let him hear:

There was no such test* that came upon the world back then. This applies to the future and Jesus is talking to those that will rule with him. They need to conquer. Conquer what? Going through the GT under the 8th king 42-month rule. It says he will 'keep them from' the HOT, but that does not mean they won't go through it. That is why it calls for faith and endurance on their part during that time. 'Keep them from' means he will 'watch over them', 5083. téreó.

* test/tribulation - 3986. peirasmos/2346. thlibó = affliction/distress/calamity/suffering

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Revelation 13 and 17 Beasts

by Duran in

revelation 17:8-11,12-14. revelation 13:3,5,7,8,10;11:2,3. revelation 13:11-17;19:19,20,21. revelation 15:2;20:4. what beast does it state that gets thrown into the fiery lake with the false prophet?

what beast gets the 42-month authority given to it in which time the motb is given out?.

what beast is the 8th king?.

Duran

First the house must be constituted, then the judgment will start there. As yet I don't see God's house being established.

Are you kidding me? You yourself said, 'we are on the same page', and you cited Scriptures to what God's house/temple/holy place is. It has been being constructed since the first century. When the 8th king receives his 42-month authority all people will be in subjection too him, but true wheat/sheep (God's people) will refuse that authority and thereby suffer tribulation (captivity/death) by the 8th king during that time. In that sense that is how/when God's house is trampled on. This serves as the judgement that first starts with God's house. During that time ALL people (that refuse the mark) regardless of their lack of understanding now and their many different beliefs, they will be refined together during that time and end up on the same page/same understanding.

Notice here in Joel's account the nations are said to be ruling over God's people and they are considered to be captives during that time. That is the judgment that first starts with God's people, then after the 42- month captivity/GT, the said captives are rescued/brought down to the said low plain (Armageddon) and the nations are gathered together to be judged at that time.

@Kosonen

Mainly this will be the test:
Revelation 14:9 Another angel, a third, followed them, saying in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the wild beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he will also drink of the wine of the anger of God that is poured out undiluted into the cup of His wrath, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the sight of the holy angels and in the sight of the Lamb.11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever, and day and night they have no rest, those who worship the wild beast and its image and whoever receives the mark of its name. 12 Here is where it calls for endurance on the part of the holy ones, those who keep the commandments of God and hold fast to the faith of Jesus.”

Correct!

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Encouraging scriptures for the day

by Kosonen in

jw
friends

hello my friends,.

here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.

revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).

Duran

Willie Nelson - Crazy live 1992 - YouTube