No need to leave, who cares about that one down voter? It's probably just a JW who is waking up and lurking, but still in that angry stage of denial.
Yes.
Like hissy feral kittens. Terrified and fascinated at the same time.
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by Steel inis it true that in 1975 the watchtower falsely predicted the end of the world and a great number of the membership quit and just a few years later they turned disassociation into disfellowshipping?
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1975 and 1981?
by Steel inis it true that in 1975 the watchtower falsely predicted the end of the world and a great number of the membership quit and just a few years later they turned disassociation into disfellowshipping?
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Is it true that in 1975 the watchtower falsely predicted the end of the world
1975 became a prophetic focal point starting in the mid 1960's. The idea was that it marked 6000 years since Adam's creation. with the next 1000 years (give or take) being the millennium.
and a great number of the membership quit..
I'm not sure if anybody knows exact numbers. The JW faith has a core of active members as well as a fringe of people who are sympathetic, but might only attend the Memorial once a year.
Events like the Cuban Missle Crises, for example, would result in greatly increased attendance, but this would drop off when the event passed.
1975 was a similar event. When the year came and went and nothing happened, attendance fell. How many true believers actually left, I'm not sure.
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The smug arrogance of "having the truth".
by stuckinarut2 inhas anyone noticed that witnesses (from the top down) seem to have a quiet form of smug arrogance toward all non witnesses?.
perhaps it comes from being told how "special and unique" they are but they end up looking down on all normal members of the community because they are not witnesses.. so any form of "love" they show those in the territory is also limited as long as they accept the message...otherwise they are viewed contemptuously as "worldly" and therefore of little value...after all,they will be destroyed right?.
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Yes. I got it all the time when my wife was a true believer.
Sometimes it was irritating enough to hand them my Novum Testamentum Graece when they offered to 'prove' something to me from my own Bible
I don't think it's intentional as most of the JWs I've known have been basically good people.
It's an unavoidable consequence of their belief, or more specifically the fragility of that belief.
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As Seen On TV....Have You Ever Tried Any Of Their Products?
by minimus inif you have , was it worth what you paid?
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Blenders are another test case - even the pricier ones would honk out quickly making fresh salsa daily - guess that's why they make food processors.
Yes. Blender vs. Food Processor is another good example of universal (blender) vs. induction (Most food processor) motors. Induction motors do not spin as fast (Speed is limited by the line frequency) but they are work horses.
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As Seen On TV....Have You Ever Tried Any Of Their Products?
by minimus inif you have , was it worth what you paid?
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Yes.
We bought a juice machine from an infomercial once. --Three easy payments, yada, yada, yada.
It's an extremely high quality appliance. A real induction rather than a universal motor, so it's quiet, powerful and has no brushes to ever replace.
We just don't use it. It sits up on a high shelf next to the bread machine we got from Sharper Image. (Are they still around?)
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Did Russell come up with the no hell fire and no Trinity doctrine or did steal that belief from another religion as well?
by nowwhat? injust wondering hate to give the devil his due.
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His [Russell's] sincerity does not preclude him being a charlatan.
Charlatan in the sense of being a quack. Not in the sense of being a malicious trickster; a swindler; one who deceives for personal profit, etc..
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CSA and letters of response
by problemaddict 2 inhi guys.
been a while since i've poked my head in.
i have a fairly specific question.
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about the feasibility of Noah's Ark. It was a great read.
Great as in entertaining?
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Did Russell come up with the no hell fire and no Trinity doctrine or did steal that belief from another religion as well?
by nowwhat? injust wondering hate to give the devil his due.
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He did not come up with either of the two ideas, but to be fair, being repulsed by the idea of a burning hell is a point in his favor.
The reason he rejected Wendell's brand of Adventism and embraced Barbour's was because the former was about fiery judgment, while the latter was about restitution.
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Spinoza
by Hairtrigger indid you know that when einstein attended some conferences in the numerous universities of the usa, the recurring question that the students asked him was:.
- do you believe in god?.
and he always answered:.
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Spinoza's god and Einstein's belief are relatively close to modern Judaism: God exists but he doesn't need you...
Again, Einstein rejected belief in a personal God. No personality. No volition. No he.
Only abstract principle
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Montana Supreme Court will hear the $35M case tomorrow
by Corney inthe montana case enters the home stretch.
the state supreme court will hear oral arguments tomorrow, 13 september, at the northern hotel in billings during the state bar of montana’s annual meeting (announcement 1, announcement 2).
an introduction to the argument will begin at 9:30 a.m., with the argument starting at 10 a.m. (4 p.m. utc, 9 a.m. sf time, 12 a.m. ny time, 5 p.m. london time, 2 a.m. saturday sydney time).
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....the oral arguments clearly indicated that the court was leaning towards the fact that the church tenants get to decide this stuff.
I'm having a hard time understanding this. (Maybe I just need another cup of coffee)
Did you mean to say, "tenets?"