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  Aunt Jemima and Mrs.Buttersworth Need To Be Destroyed!

  by minimus in

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  we have to get rid of these racist relics.

  i propose that we destroy all these bottles of syrups and burn every pancake box !

  we need to get rid of anything that reminds us of anything negative concerning slavery.. in boston they decapitated the head of christopher columbus and got rid of his statue.

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  I was thinking... for all these people who want to remove every past mistake or simple history, right or wrong, it’s no different than what the Watchtower has done by simply removing past comments in their literature or removing the literature itself so that evidence never existed to support their wrongness.

  I would guess there is a difference between people who want the past erased and people who are uncomfortable with things that hearken back to it.

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  "The one to blame for the war"
  

  If they were to take this character in a more respectable, less caricatured form and use him as an emblem/mascot for an investment house or financial advisor today, I'd probably be a little uncomfortable too.

  I understand this makes no logical sense, but then human emotions and gut reactions aren't logical.
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  Aunt Jemima and Mrs.Buttersworth Need To Be Destroyed!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we have to get rid of these racist relics.

  i propose that we destroy all these bottles of syrups and burn every pancake box !

  we need to get rid of anything that reminds us of anything negative concerning slavery.. in boston they decapitated the head of christopher columbus and got rid of his statue.

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  Not so sure. She was consistently pictured as a maid/cook in a white household:

  
  

  Sometimes it came across as a Southern plantation:

  
  
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  Aunt Jemima and Mrs.Buttersworth Need To Be Destroyed!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we have to get rid of these racist relics.

  i propose that we destroy all these bottles of syrups and burn every pancake box !

  we need to get rid of anything that reminds us of anything negative concerning slavery.. in boston they decapitated the head of christopher columbus and got rid of his statue.

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  --Not sure why the pictures disappeared above

  Here's an example of the broken English of earlier Aunt Jemima's:

  
  

  And here's an example of the racial caricaturing of even earlier ones:

  
  
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  Why Don't Conservatives Take the Lead in Technology?

  by RubaDub in

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  why is there constant criticism about "liberals" driving new technology?

  web sites, social platforms, etc.

  if the us is relatively evenly divided, why do all "new" things seem to come from the liberal side?

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  Einstein is mostly known for his theory of relativity. He was also a pacifist, peace activist and socialist.

  Academicians of all types tend to be liberal. Perhaps because the environment they live in insulates them from the day to day reality and things expected of the average working man.

  To plagiarize a line from a movie: "In the private sector, they want results."
  
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  Aunt Jemima and Mrs.Buttersworth Need To Be Destroyed!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we have to get rid of these racist relics.

  i propose that we destroy all these bottles of syrups and burn every pancake box !

  we need to get rid of anything that reminds us of anything negative concerning slavery.. in boston they decapitated the head of christopher columbus and got rid of his statue.

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  There's nothing even remotely offensive about Aunt Jemima in her current form. Racism by its very nature is derogatory and there's nothing racist about a compliment to your cooking.

  The problem, I think, is the history of the brand. You don't have to go back very far to arrive at this:

  
  

  Happy days is here! ---Not too bright, but boy can she cook....

  Or even farther to find crude caricatures of people of color:

  
  

  Again, we're dealing with human emotions and perceptions here that don't necessarily make any logical sense.
  
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  A question about the contemporary generation teaching following a conversation with a JW apologist

  by Giles Gray in

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  i would like to ask the ex-jws on this site to put their ‘apologists hat’ back on for a moment, so that i can go through the overlapping generation teaching in an attempt to make sense of it.

  i apologise if these points have already been addressed on this site.a quick background for the reason for my request… having never confronted a jw apologist on the topic, i recently engaged with a jw regarding the official understanding of a ‘generation’ and unfortunately he didn’t have an answer to the points i was making.

  i was left a little confused as to what the official jw response would/should be.so i was hoping that my thoughts below might be considered from an apologist’s perspective.the point in question relates to this section of the watchtower article below from 2008, as well as the jw.org video explanation of the overlapping generation:---:w08 2/15[box on page 25] can we calculate the length of “this generation”?the word “generation” usually refers to people of various ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period or event.

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  If the society are to extend the overlapping time forward to include Tony Morris (who didn’t personally witness 1914 but lived during Franz’s lifetime), why does the chart in the video not extend backwards in time to included those who died before 1914 but who lived within Franz’s lifetime?

  Because the generation teaching it its current is an ad hoc explanation. --A definition of convenience specifically formulated to fix the predicament the JW's find themselves in today.

  It makes no logical sense outside of that context and isn't meant to.
  
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  Do You Believe Polls Saying Trump Will Lose To Biden?

  by minimus in

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  a new fox poll says biden is up by 12 percentage points.

  of course, most other polls say trump will be trounced this time around.. do you think the polls might be right this time?

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  I think it's too early for a poll to mean anything.

  Hillary actually was ahead of Trump at one point. Right up until she said she would like to see D.C. vs Heller reversed.

  Who knows what will happen this time? Biden's sentiments on the subject are virtually identical to Hillary's
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  Removing Historic Monuments and Statues - Does the Term "Historical" Make it Right or Wrong?

  by RubaDub in

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  after further review and thought, i really don't see how removing a monument or statue that may be truly offensive to a large group of people is in some way rewriting history.. i think of germany or other parts of europe.

  you don't see swastikas on buildings or statues of hitler or mussolini or other upper level generals in public.

  would it be good for a person (think jewish) to drive around a city and see hitler in a public park, even though it is "historical?

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  The people of the South should have a right to memorialize their dead. It doesn't matter if you agree with what those dead people did or thought.

  Attitudes were different about a great many things at the time.
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  Noah’s flood

  by dothemath in

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  a few years ago at one of the conventions, there was a talk on gods remarkable creation.

  one of the slides showed a giant sequoia tree, approximately 5000 years old!.

  later another talk was about noah etc.

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  I remember Splane reasoning how they can’t be dated correctly.

  Funny....

  Spence argues that they can be dated to +/- 5 years based on astronomical orientation. (i.e. The north/south alignment follows the earth's precession.)

  Even if she's off by 10 times this amount, the pyramids at Giza where still there well before JW's and kindred groups believe the flood happened.

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  Stockholm syndrome and religion

  by menrov in

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  based on a discussion i had with my wife, i started to compare the situation of people who are a member of a religious organisation or are devout to a belief, to the so-called stockholm syndrome.

  the stockholm syndrome is where feelings of trust or affection is felt in many cases of kidnapping or hostage-taking by a victim towards a captor.

  in such a situation, the person being kidnapped is not free to leave and is held against their will but over time takes that situation as a "new normal" and even starts to see their kidnapper(s) as normal people.

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  Or as Dolgun said, "People love power in the hope that it will love them back."