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  JW current stance on Vaccines?

  by lcarter017 in

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  it came to my attention that the covid-19 vaccine works by editing the genetic code of the mitochondrial dna, using gene therapy.. you should seriously question the moral implications of allowing a part of your dna to be modified.

  does anyone have any concerns about this?if anyone has any questions, i can do my best to explain.

  i personally find it very suspicious how they chose to word it, and conveniently inform us of this fact "after" people have taken the vaccine..

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  In the case of Rubella, (At least) Catholic writings treat the vaccination as the lesser of two evils (i.e Passive versus Active cooperation in sin)

  In other words:

  Yes, abortion is a sin and yes, benefiting from that sin even decades after the fact constitutes passive cooperation.

  But,

  Since unborn children are extremely vulnerable to Rubella, refusing to have your child vaccinated, would endanger the lives of others and would constitute the active commission of sin should any harm arise from this negligence.

  I don't have a dog in this fight either, but do find the thought process interesting.
  
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  JW current stance on Vaccines?

  by lcarter017 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it came to my attention that the covid-19 vaccine works by editing the genetic code of the mitochondrial dna, using gene therapy.. you should seriously question the moral implications of allowing a part of your dna to be modified.

  does anyone have any concerns about this?if anyone has any questions, i can do my best to explain.

  i personally find it very suspicious how they chose to word it, and conveniently inform us of this fact "after" people have taken the vaccine..

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  mRNA and some other vaccines are developed however with the assistance of aborted babies’ stem cells, which (strict) Catholics and various Evangelical groups won’t accept but JW leaves it open to interpretation.

  Yes. We can add Rubella, Varicella, Hepatitus A and Rabies to the list, but to be fair, we're talking about lineages that are 30 to 60 years old.
  
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  JW current stance on Vaccines?

  by lcarter017 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it came to my attention that the covid-19 vaccine works by editing the genetic code of the mitochondrial dna, using gene therapy.. you should seriously question the moral implications of allowing a part of your dna to be modified.

  does anyone have any concerns about this?if anyone has any questions, i can do my best to explain.

  i personally find it very suspicious how they chose to word it, and conveniently inform us of this fact "after" people have taken the vaccine..

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  I guess it depends on how you look at it. An automobile contains about 3 grams of platinum, mostly in the catalytic converter, but since the automaker is not in the business of mining metals, refining them, brokering them, or even necessarily manufacturing their own catalytic converters and spark plugs, you can't honestly say that large amounts of platinum were handled in the production of a car.
  

  Similarly, a pharmaceutical company is not in the business of slaughtering animals or collecting blood donations, or even necessarily manufacturing their growth mediums and/or other vaccine components, so you can't honestly say that large amounts of blood are used in the production of an inactivated or live-attenuated vaccine.

  The situation changes with post-exposure vaccines that contain gamma globulin, but even then, I don't think JW's have a problem with it (?)
  

  
  
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  JW current stance on Vaccines?

  by lcarter017 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it came to my attention that the covid-19 vaccine works by editing the genetic code of the mitochondrial dna, using gene therapy.. you should seriously question the moral implications of allowing a part of your dna to be modified.

  does anyone have any concerns about this?if anyone has any questions, i can do my best to explain.

  i personally find it very suspicious how they chose to word it, and conveniently inform us of this fact "after" people have taken the vaccine..

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  Most of the inactivated and live-attenuated vaccines contain small amounts of serum albumin either as an adjuvant or excipient. Examples would include MMR II, MUMPSVAX, ATTENUVAX, MURAVAX II, VARIVAX and VAQTA, by Merck & Co., EOLARIX, INFANRIX, and GLAXO by SmithKline Beecham, PENTACEL by Aventis Pasteur, and Connaught Laboratories IPV.

  JW's do not consider albumin to be a "primary component" of blood and JW parents don't seem to be troubled by it, if they think about it at all.
  
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  JWs unrecognisable compared to my grandfathers time

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  my grandfather who has been dead for 37 years would not recognise the borganisation today.

  he would turn in his grave if he knew the end didn’t come by 2023.. back in the 1970s he really believed in the 75 thing.

  he was so disappointed and almost blamed everyone else why the end didn’t come.

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  I thought CT Russell was the brains behind the 607/1914 nonsense...Is that not correct?

  CT Russel had rejected Adventist chronology and date setting prior to meeting Nelson Barbour in 1876. (I am paraphrasing the July 15, 1906 issue of Zion's Watch Tower where Russell himself explained all of this at length.)

  Barbour taught that the Gentile Times were a 2520 year period running from 606BC to 1914AD; that an invisible presence of Christ had commenced in 1874 and that there would be a 40 year harvest culminating in 1914, which would see the start of the Millennium.

  Barbour had outlined this chronology in his own periodical, Herald of the Morning in 1875 and Russell was so intrigued by it, that he paid Barbour's expenses to meet with him and explain it further.

  Convinced of Barbour's reasoning, the two men jointly published Three Worlds And The Harvest Of This World, which explained the chronology in book form.
  
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  JW current stance on Vaccines?

  by lcarter017 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it came to my attention that the covid-19 vaccine works by editing the genetic code of the mitochondrial dna, using gene therapy.. you should seriously question the moral implications of allowing a part of your dna to be modified.

  does anyone have any concerns about this?if anyone has any questions, i can do my best to explain.

  i personally find it very suspicious how they chose to word it, and conveniently inform us of this fact "after" people have taken the vaccine..

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  You mean they are even terming it a "spike" in the vaccine? That seems a bit too obvious doesn't it. In other words they've "spiked" the vaccine with an unknown protein, that could be anything.

  Please tell me this was meant as humor....
  
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  Lots of empty seats at Jehovah's Witnesses Convention in Tucson, Arizona

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  https://youtu.be/5926nhzyz90.

  the jehovah's witness 2023 convention theme is, ''exercise patience''...by looking at the attendance at this tucson, arizona convention, it should be changed to, '' jehovah's witnesses...running out of patience''.

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  The venue seats 9275 in the fixed seats alone. With the arena floor filled with folding chairs, it would be +/- 10,000.

  I'm guessing JW's have gotten hooked on listening to the program from the comfort of their homes, maybe?
  
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  Anyone know what this sculpture is of the "torture stake?"

  by charity7 in

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  hey guys!

  i'm new on this site and am a non jw here married to a jw.

  my husband's family are active members and they daily post articles on facebook from jw.org which i know is meant for me to see and read.

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  ....and hanging completely vertically actually served to kill a person faster than would happen on a cross.

  Yes. In just a few minutes.

  It doesn't take a lot of imagination to understand why an ancient culture might have considered that too humane.
  
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  Supreme Court Decision on Free Speech this week

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

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  this week's first amendment case has a slant that may sound familiar to jws.

  most are aware that the wt won a number of supreme court decisions in the '40s related to free speech (the first amendment of the us constitution).

  in particular, the flag salute case in '39, which they lost, tried to argue that not saluting the flag was a religious issue.

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  So, no blacks allowed is ok?

  I don't see how the services of a web designer would qualify as public accommodation in the sense that a restaurant, a hotel, a bar, or a public beach would.

  The case of Masterpiece Cakeshop was a little more difficult, inasmuch as a shop on a city street is definitely a public accommodation, but the services of custom decorator are not.
  
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  a pet peeve of mine

  by enoughisenough in

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  putting this under "friends" because i couldn't figure out where to put it.

  it is very often on here and in ex jw videos, ect that people like to undermine some of those who once we would have called friends.

  there seems to be a view that window washers, plumbers, cleaners, construction workers are somehow less intelligent than those who may be college educated.

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  I would guess that context is probably important. (As with all things)
  

  There's a helluva difference between an educated person being a snot about it versus a JW pontificating to a degreed professional in their own field.

  I've seen both.