interesting find through a book "inside story of jehovah's witnesses" (1967) by w.c. stevenson, supposedly a former jw circuit overseer.
it's an interesting "apostate" perspective written prior to the wts 1975 debacle.. anyway, at a certain point, there's a quote from a book called "the four cults", by professor anthony a. hoekema (1963, william b. eerdmans publishing company), a calvinist, which makes some sharp remarks about the way jehovah's witnesses teach the dead coming back to life:.
1) in the case of those "resurrecting" for everlasting life on earth, one asks: if the soul is extinct at death, and the body disintegrates and its components are integrated into other forms of life, what is there to "resurrect"?
The idea of an identical body and the implantation of your memories and personality into it is very much like the movie, The 6th Day where the human copy (Clone with implanted memories) truly, honestly, believes he's the original and is devastated to find out he's not.
That the JW teaching is much closer to modern science fiction than anything you can actually find in the Bible should tell you something...
when i was younger we had song books and i recall that some of the songs were pretty catchy.
then they revised it took some of those songs out, and added more.
i have to admit some songs were pretty good.
There aren't many opportunities to use the word, "doggerel" anymore, but describing the songs song at the KH is one of them...
i’m sick and tired of seeing pictures and articles about their rekindled romance.
who cares???
do you enjoy seeing news articles about celebrity daters?.
Only in the sense that I care about all people and would rather see them happy than miserable.
I do have to say that I had more respect for Ben Affleck after seeing Argo and more respect for Jennifer Lopez after seeing Shall We Dance, but movies don't really tell you much about the individual.
i found this interesting perspective on reddit.. post;.
i remember the moment the first real crack in my faith happened as a jehovah's witness.
i was sitting in the kingdom hall during the watchtower study where, as is common, the article was talking about how the israelites as a nation abandoned jehovah.. "but wait," i thought, "having a nation represent him here on earth was part of his plan.
Most doubts aren't created by apostates. They are created in a Kingdom Hall.
Absolutely
do you think most of what they cover is accurate?
do you trust the media , especially mainstream?.
Were they ever unbiased? I remember Walter Cronkite throwing objectivity to the wind in his coverage of the Vietnam War and that was awhile ago
many that have come to this forum have left the jws religion and moved on with their lives but from a outsider's viewpoint what do think makes the jws religion wrong or incorrect as a active christian faith ?.
somethings come to mind such as its long continuous end times/armageddon soon doctrine which has really been a core doctrine for decades going right back to its beginning .. maybe they should have adopted the stance as other christian based faiths and adhered to jesus's own words when he said " no one knows of the time not even he ".
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In the US...1 in 273 of the US population is an active publisher.
The nature of the question would preclude JW's themselves. Sorry for not being clear about what I meant by people on the street. I should know better than to use idioms like that.
as a youg man this stunned me when i studied the original "youth" book 97% had done it so i thought soo that's pretty much everyone i guess the 3% were witness youth!
also "awake" claimed 90% of students had accessed porn at some time.
everyone is doing it i guess 10% are the witness youth...how dumb was i?.
Like a lot of fundamentalist groups, Jehovah's Witnesses disregard the legal, linguistic and literary definitions of pornography and define it along purely subjective lines, which would include any portrayal of the human form that is pleasant to the eye at all.
By that definition, pretty much everyone has accessed "porn" because even the swimsuit edition of Sports Illustrated would probably qualify.
The German magazine, Stern, from which the JW's plagiairzed the picture of Pacale Petit for the Live Forever book, would definitely be considered "Porn" by JW's, which makes you wonder what they were doing with it in the first place.
i saw the rise of skywalker (2019) a few weeks ago.. and it is totally crazy, lol, it has everything but the kitchen sink.. i can somewhat feel for writer/director jj abrams because rian johnson went f**k up in the previous film.. e.g.
in the force awakens (2015), abrams introduced snoke, but then in the last jedi (2017) johnson killed him off, the same thing happened to luke.. but that doesn't really hide hollywood hack abrams from criticism of this movie.
bringing back emperor palpatine - i mean, really?.
I haven't seen it (The Rise of Skywalker) yet, but I'm sure it's a train wreck. I'll give it a try though.
To be fair, continuity and plausibility problems have plagued the
franchise from the moment Vader knelt on the dais and addressed the
Emperor as "My master." (And that was in 1980....)
many that have come to this forum have left the jws religion and moved on with their lives but from a outsider's viewpoint what do think makes the jws religion wrong or incorrect as a active christian faith ?.
somethings come to mind such as its long continuous end times/armageddon soon doctrine which has really been a core doctrine for decades going right back to its beginning .. maybe they should have adopted the stance as other christian based faiths and adhered to jesus's own words when he said " no one knows of the time not even he ".
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Only if you managed to find 100 people none of whom....
I'm kinda at a loss as to why you think that would be difficult. (Unless things are really, really different in your neck of the woods....)
JW's are not known for what they believe. They are known for what they don't believe when they're known at all.
You might find a few people who know that JW's don't celebrate holidays and fewer still who are aware that they are against transfusion medicine.
But an imminent judgement culminating in the destruction of non-JW's?
JW's themselves will usually argue with you on that point.
do you think he could get reinstated as president?
do you think trump will run again for president or do you think he will just be a force for the republican party behind the scenes?.
Maybe he does, Min, but I hope not...
The two examples I gave (Pence & Ducey) are pretty clear cut
