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  COVID not found

  by Anna Marina in

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  alberta has just lifted all covid restrictions because they can't find any samples to prove it even exists.. https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/alberta-lifts-all-covid-restrictions-because-they-cant-produce-an-isolated-sample-of-sars-cov-2-to-prove-covid-exists-to-back-their-mandates/.

  german paper bild apologises for pushing covid lockdowns and damaging society.. https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-30-german-newspaper-apologizes-covid-lockdown-hysteria-society.html.

  wonder if the day will come when wt admits it lied?

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  However the other article I linked to pointed out that in Alberta they had been unable to FIND any samples of COVID-19.

  Here is a deconstruction of that assertion by Reuters:

  https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-alberta-case-idUSL1N2PE0EX

  
  
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  COVID not found

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  alberta has just lifted all covid restrictions because they can't find any samples to prove it even exists.. https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/alberta-lifts-all-covid-restrictions-because-they-cant-produce-an-isolated-sample-of-sars-cov-2-to-prove-covid-exists-to-back-their-mandates/.

  german paper bild apologises for pushing covid lockdowns and damaging society.. https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-30-german-newspaper-apologizes-covid-lockdown-hysteria-society.html.

  wonder if the day will come when wt admits it lied?

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  Anna Marina

  Hi TD - no I don't know what kind of paper BILD is - I just know it is a German paper and could see they were apologising.

  Apologizing for what specifically? Here is a link to the actual article:

  https://www.bild.de/politik/inland/politik-inland/weil-die-bundesregierung-es-nicht-macht-bild-bittet-kinder-um-verzeihung-76535200.bild.html

  "Millionen Kindern in diesem Land, für die wir als Gesellschaft alle miteinander verantwortlich sind, möchte ich sagen, was unsere Bundesregierung und unsere Kanzlerin bisher nicht wagen zu sagen: Wir bitten Euch um Verzeihung. Wir bitten Euch um Verzeihung für anderthalb Jahre einer Politik, die Euch zu Opfern gemacht hat.

  Zu Opfern von Gewalt, Vernachlässigung, Isolation, seelischer Einsamkeit. Für eine Politik und eine mediale Berichterstattung, die Euch bis heute wie Gift das Gefühl einflößt, Ihr wäret eine tödliche Gefahr für unsere Gesellschaft.

  Das seid Ihr nicht, lasst Euch das nicht einreden. Wir haben Euch zu schützen, nicht Ihr uns."

  "I would like to say to the millions of children in this country for whom we as a society are all responsible what neither our government nor the Chancellor dares to tell you: We ask you to forgive us. We ask your forgiveness for a policy which for a year and a half has made you victims. -Victims of violence, neglect, isolation and emotional loneliness.

  For politics and media reporting that to this day, like poison, gives you the feeling that you are a deadly danger to our society.
  

  You are not [and] do not let yourself be persuaded. We have to protect you, not you us.
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  This was in response to the harsh lock downs, which were much more strict that most other Western countries as well as the sensationalized claim that children could be responsible for murdering their own grandparents which (surprise surprise) appeared in Bild itself.

  The naturalnews.com site you linked to thoroughly misrepresents the article. Disagreeing with the necessity of lock downs does not amount to a claim that Covid19 is not real.
  

  
  
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  COVID not found

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  alberta has just lifted all covid restrictions because they can't find any samples to prove it even exists.. https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/alberta-lifts-all-covid-restrictions-because-they-cant-produce-an-isolated-sample-of-sars-cov-2-to-prove-covid-exists-to-back-their-mandates/.

  german paper bild apologises for pushing covid lockdowns and damaging society.. https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-30-german-newspaper-apologizes-covid-lockdown-hysteria-society.html.

  wonder if the day will come when wt admits it lied?

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  I'm still curious why someone would believe a toilet paper level tabloid would be a credible source.

  No offense intended, Anna Marina. You seem like a wonderful person. Just perhaps not familiar with Bild-Zeitung
  
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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

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  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  Here is the full quote, in context from the October 7, 2020 Vice Presidential Debate at the University of Utah:

  
  

  Susan Page: If the Trump administration approves a vaccine before or after the election, should Americans take it and would you take it?

  
  Kamala Harris: If the public health professionals, if Dr. Fauci, if the doctors tell us that we should take it, I’ll be the first in line to take it. Absolutely. But if Donald Trump tells us we should take it, I’m not taking it.”

  TBH, I don't think there's much to take away from this exchange. It was a stupid question and stupid answer
  
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  COVID not found

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  alberta has just lifted all covid restrictions because they can't find any samples to prove it even exists.. https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/alberta-lifts-all-covid-restrictions-because-they-cant-produce-an-isolated-sample-of-sars-cov-2-to-prove-covid-exists-to-back-their-mandates/.

  german paper bild apologises for pushing covid lockdowns and damaging society.. https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-30-german-newspaper-apologizes-covid-lockdown-hysteria-society.html.

  wonder if the day will come when wt admits it lied?

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  German paper BILD apologises for pushing COVID lockdowns and damaging society.

  
  
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  Praise Jehovah God, Jehovah's Witnesses are not part of 'The Disinformation Dozen'

  by was a new boy in

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  'so who are the disinformation dozen?

  1. joseph mercola .

  2. robert f. kennedy, jr. .

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  Freedom of speech indeed implies the freedom to yell fire in a crowded theater. The notion that you can’t was overturned by the Supreme Court a century ago.

  Curious, because this actually has a direct tie-in to JW's
  

  "Shouting fire in a crowded theater" is a paraphrase of the unanimous opinion in a 1919 SCOTUS case which held that opposition to military conscription was not protected speech under the 1st Amendment

  (Rutherford & Co got in trouble over essentially the same thing)

  That was partially overturned 50 years later in 1969. (Brandenburg v. Ohio) which I think might be what you're referencing (???)
  
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  Just the Flu eh?

  by Slidin Fast in

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  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/04/fit-and-healthy-man-42-from-southport-who-rejected-vaccine-dies-of-covid.

  this has been widely reported by left and right wing news papers.

  just food for thought..

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  The smallpox vaccines (APSV, Imvanex, and the more recent ACAM2000) were not injections. They were administered with a specialized instrument that left multiple pin-pricks in a dime-sized pattern, usually on the skin of your upper arm. The recipient develops a single pustule, that usually leaves a scar.

  Back in the day, people were terrified of this procedure, but it was a requirement to attend public school.
  
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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

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  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  DD
  

  Therein lies the rub….

  What additional conclusions will be justified by those who buy into the false analogy?

  An analogy doesn't justify any conclusion, because even a good analogy will break down if you push it too far.

  Humans aren't very logical creatures though.

  It's hard for me to tell in this case if Ms. Wen's intentions were good or if she meant to suggest that there should be civil and/or criminal penalties for the unvaccinated, just like there are for drunk drivers.
  
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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. social
  2. current

  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  An analogy is a rhetorical device, not an exercise in logic.

  For example, saying that "Electricity flows through wires like water flows through a pipe" is not correct in the technical sense, but it is not a logical fallacy. It's just a bad analogy.

  A logical fallacy occurs only if that comparison is used as proof of a conclusion as in, ".. therefore you shouldn't abruptly shut off an electrical connection because you could burst the wire."

  This is a logical fallacy. It's called Faulty Analogy and/or Reasoning through analogy.
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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. social
  2. current

  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  I don't think it's a very good analogy, but it doesn't become a logical fallacy in the formal sense until someone uses the alleged similarity to justify additional conclusions.