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  “Well at least he doesn’t make mean tweets”

  by minimus in

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  i asked a tennis friend this morning what he thought about what’s going on in afghanistan and he said it was terrible.

  he was a military man and identifies as a middle of the road republican.

  he supported most of trump’s policies but voted for biden because he couldn’t take trump’s mean tweets.

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  I'm not a fan of Biden or the policies of Democrats in general, but I'm curious:

  Has "mean" become the new euphemism for "Misinformed" or "Demonstrably false" or "I lack a grade school child's understanding of the Constitution"
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  Lloyd Evans keeps doing parts on how the JWs are guilty of follwing the bible.

  by mickbobcat in

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  2. beliefs

  i have been watching evans videos for a while.

  he keeps attacking the cult for following the bible.

  women are to be subservient to men.

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  This is not an argument against the cult its an argument against the bible.

  I agree that criticism of the JW's should be strictly in the context of how they view the Bible and not how someone else thinks they should
  

  In the larger context of Christianity in general, some of it depends on what you view the Bible to be.

  JW's and kindred groups view the Bible as a single, contiguous, harmonious work from cover to cover authored by God himself via direct plenary inspiration.

  Liberal flavors of Christianity tend view it more as what it actually is: A loosely organized anthology reflecting not only the culture in which it was written, but the different opinions of the authors themselves.

  The clash in the NT between the Jewish and Gentile factions, Paul's open insults to James and the fact that the book of James reads as a rebuttal to the book of Galatians all make a whole lot more sense under that rubric
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  I'm now turned off by this site

  by purrpurr in

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  in one form or another i've been a member of this site for almost 10 years.

  in the past this was a great place for debate, news and support for ex jws.

  i logged on several times a day and posted several times a week.

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  Like all sites of this type, the mood changes over time

  There was a point, for example, where the man-hate here was so thick you could cut it with a knife

  I'm sure JW females come by it honestly, but it was directed at the wrong people. They type of man who would question the JW belief system is not usually the type of man who accepts the stone age notion that women are inferior in any way.

  There was a time when I sounded like a psycho for pointing out that there are perfectly legitimate uses for firearms in the American Southwest.
  

  But that changed in time. The pendulum has swung in cadence with the current resurgence of populism, but it won't stay there forever. Political moods come and go.

  I am still very grateful to Simon for this site and the time he has put into it.
  
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  COVID not found

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  alberta has just lifted all covid restrictions because they can't find any samples to prove it even exists.. https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/alberta-lifts-all-covid-restrictions-because-they-cant-produce-an-isolated-sample-of-sars-cov-2-to-prove-covid-exists-to-back-their-mandates/.

  german paper bild apologises for pushing covid lockdowns and damaging society.. https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-30-german-newspaper-apologizes-covid-lockdown-hysteria-society.html.

  wonder if the day will come when wt admits it lied?

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  Reuters does not address the issue that Covid was not found by the Californian pathologists who had 1500 samples from the lungs of those theoretically dying of Covid.

  I've been unable to locate a trustworthy source for this.
  

  AP says that's because there is none:

  https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-154815506152

  Dr. Derick Knauss, the scientist behind the claim does not appear to exist at all.
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  COVID not found

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
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  alberta has just lifted all covid restrictions because they can't find any samples to prove it even exists.. https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/alberta-lifts-all-covid-restrictions-because-they-cant-produce-an-isolated-sample-of-sars-cov-2-to-prove-covid-exists-to-back-their-mandates/.

  german paper bild apologises for pushing covid lockdowns and damaging society.. https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-30-german-newspaper-apologizes-covid-lockdown-hysteria-society.html.

  wonder if the day will come when wt admits it lied?

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  However the other article I linked to pointed out that in Alberta they had been unable to FIND any samples of COVID-19.

  Here is a deconstruction of that assertion by Reuters:

  https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-alberta-case-idUSL1N2PE0EX

  
  
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  COVID not found

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
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  alberta has just lifted all covid restrictions because they can't find any samples to prove it even exists.. https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/alberta-lifts-all-covid-restrictions-because-they-cant-produce-an-isolated-sample-of-sars-cov-2-to-prove-covid-exists-to-back-their-mandates/.

  german paper bild apologises for pushing covid lockdowns and damaging society.. https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-30-german-newspaper-apologizes-covid-lockdown-hysteria-society.html.

  wonder if the day will come when wt admits it lied?

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  Anna Marina

  Hi TD - no I don't know what kind of paper BILD is - I just know it is a German paper and could see they were apologising.

  Apologizing for what specifically? Here is a link to the actual article:

  https://www.bild.de/politik/inland/politik-inland/weil-die-bundesregierung-es-nicht-macht-bild-bittet-kinder-um-verzeihung-76535200.bild.html

  "Millionen Kindern in diesem Land, für die wir als Gesellschaft alle miteinander verantwortlich sind, möchte ich sagen, was unsere Bundesregierung und unsere Kanzlerin bisher nicht wagen zu sagen: Wir bitten Euch um Verzeihung. Wir bitten Euch um Verzeihung für anderthalb Jahre einer Politik, die Euch zu Opfern gemacht hat.

  Zu Opfern von Gewalt, Vernachlässigung, Isolation, seelischer Einsamkeit. Für eine Politik und eine mediale Berichterstattung, die Euch bis heute wie Gift das Gefühl einflößt, Ihr wäret eine tödliche Gefahr für unsere Gesellschaft.

  Das seid Ihr nicht, lasst Euch das nicht einreden. Wir haben Euch zu schützen, nicht Ihr uns."

  "I would like to say to the millions of children in this country for whom we as a society are all responsible what neither our government nor the Chancellor dares to tell you: We ask you to forgive us. We ask your forgiveness for a policy which for a year and a half has made you victims. -Victims of violence, neglect, isolation and emotional loneliness.

  For politics and media reporting that to this day, like poison, gives you the feeling that you are a deadly danger to our society.
  

  You are not [and] do not let yourself be persuaded. We have to protect you, not you us.
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  This was in response to the harsh lock downs, which were much more strict that most other Western countries as well as the sensationalized claim that children could be responsible for murdering their own grandparents which (surprise surprise) appeared in Bild itself.

  The naturalnews.com site you linked to thoroughly misrepresents the article. Disagreeing with the necessity of lock downs does not amount to a claim that Covid19 is not real.
  

  
  
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  COVID not found

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
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  alberta has just lifted all covid restrictions because they can't find any samples to prove it even exists.. https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/alberta-lifts-all-covid-restrictions-because-they-cant-produce-an-isolated-sample-of-sars-cov-2-to-prove-covid-exists-to-back-their-mandates/.

  german paper bild apologises for pushing covid lockdowns and damaging society.. https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-30-german-newspaper-apologizes-covid-lockdown-hysteria-society.html.

  wonder if the day will come when wt admits it lied?

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  I'm still curious why someone would believe a toilet paper level tabloid would be a credible source.

  No offense intended, Anna Marina. You seem like a wonderful person. Just perhaps not familiar with Bild-Zeitung
  
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  Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?

  by DATA-DOG in

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  2. current

  dr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.

  besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.

  it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.

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  Here is the full quote, in context from the October 7, 2020 Vice Presidential Debate at the University of Utah:

  
  

  Susan Page: If the Trump administration approves a vaccine before or after the election, should Americans take it and would you take it?

  
  Kamala Harris: If the public health professionals, if Dr. Fauci, if the doctors tell us that we should take it, I’ll be the first in line to take it. Absolutely. But if Donald Trump tells us we should take it, I’m not taking it.”

  TBH, I don't think there's much to take away from this exchange. It was a stupid question and stupid answer
  
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  COVID not found

  by Anna Marina in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  alberta has just lifted all covid restrictions because they can't find any samples to prove it even exists.. https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/alberta-lifts-all-covid-restrictions-because-they-cant-produce-an-isolated-sample-of-sars-cov-2-to-prove-covid-exists-to-back-their-mandates/.

  german paper bild apologises for pushing covid lockdowns and damaging society.. https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-30-german-newspaper-apologizes-covid-lockdown-hysteria-society.html.

  wonder if the day will come when wt admits it lied?

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  German paper BILD apologises for pushing COVID lockdowns and damaging society.

  
  
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  Praise Jehovah God, Jehovah's Witnesses are not part of 'The Disinformation Dozen'

  by was a new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  'so who are the disinformation dozen?

  1. joseph mercola .

  2. robert f. kennedy, jr. .

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  Freedom of speech indeed implies the freedom to yell fire in a crowded theater. The notion that you can’t was overturned by the Supreme Court a century ago.

  Curious, because this actually has a direct tie-in to JW's
  

  "Shouting fire in a crowded theater" is a paraphrase of the unanimous opinion in a 1919 SCOTUS case which held that opposition to military conscription was not protected speech under the 1st Amendment

  (Rutherford & Co got in trouble over essentially the same thing)

  That was partially overturned 50 years later in 1969. (Brandenburg v. Ohio) which I think might be what you're referencing (???)