Posts by TD

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1975 on the back burner

by Fisherman in

“1975” still marks 6000 years from the creation of adam in wt calendar.

according to “all scriptures inspired” book, there is a gap between the creation of adam and the creation of eve and her marriage to adam.

it was at that point in time when eve was created that marked the end of the 6th creative day and the beginning of god’s rest, the 7th day as recorded in genesis.

TD

Genesis 5:3 claims Adam was 130 when Seth was born

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if jesus memorial meal is meant to follow on from the jewish passover celebration, would someone explain to me why the jehovah's witness community are holding their "lord's evening meal" on tuesday 4th april; when the jewish community are not holding their 2023 passover until the 5th april 2023?

doesn't this mean that the jehovahs have got their date wrong?.

https://www.londonworld.com/read-this/passover-2023-what-is-passover-dates-and-greetings-4091833.

TD

Therefore, Numbers 33:3 does not refer to the following morning daylight after Passover

I think you're off your stride here, my friend.

First: That idea is contradicted by JW literature itself. The opening sentence from the Insight article you quoted above plainly states,

"Passover (Heb., peʹsach; Gr., paʹskha) was instituted the evening preceding the Exodus from Egypt." (Emphasis mine)

This is not the only such statement in JW literature either...

Second: That we are talking about the daylight period of the 15th is necessary, given the context of a triumphal procession in full view of the Egyptians.

Some translations explicitly use the words "morning" and "morrow" and others, like the NWT emphasis the back-to-back linearity with phrases like, "Directly the day after the Passover" and "The very day after the Passover"

Third: Injecting an additional 24 to 36 hours into the story doesn't fit the symbolism. The Insight article goes on to comment:

"The partakers ate in a standing position, their hips girded, staff in hand, sandals on so as to be ready for a long journey over rough ground."

This observation is nonsensical when we have the Israelites milling around, doing who knows what, for the entire daylight period of the 14th and the entire nighttime period of the 15th.

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Nisan 14 or not?

by LostintheFog1999 in

if jesus memorial meal is meant to follow on from the jewish passover celebration, would someone explain to me why the jehovah's witness community are holding their "lord's evening meal" on tuesday 4th april; when the jewish community are not holding their 2023 passover until the 5th april 2023?

doesn't this mean that the jehovahs have got their date wrong?.

https://www.londonworld.com/read-this/passover-2023-what-is-passover-dates-and-greetings-4091833.

TD

When JW's wake up the next morning after their Memorial, it is still the 14th of Nisan (By their reckoning)

The 15th won't begin until the next evening, nearly 24 hours after JW's have celebrated their Memorial and the daylight period of the 15th mentioned at Numbers 33:3 won't begin until the morning after that, which is nearly 36 hours after the JW celebration.

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Nisan 14 or not?

by LostintheFog1999 in

if jesus memorial meal is meant to follow on from the jewish passover celebration, would someone explain to me why the jehovah's witness community are holding their "lord's evening meal" on tuesday 4th april; when the jewish community are not holding their 2023 passover until the 5th april 2023?

doesn't this mean that the jehovahs have got their date wrong?.

https://www.londonworld.com/read-this/passover-2023-what-is-passover-dates-and-greetings-4091833.

TD

I've read that quote a time or two and thought (perhaps mistakenly) that I did a reasonably accurate job of representing it above.

It is directly contradicted by Numbers 33:3.

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Nisan 14 or not?

by LostintheFog1999 in

if jesus memorial meal is meant to follow on from the jewish passover celebration, would someone explain to me why the jehovah's witness community are holding their "lord's evening meal" on tuesday 4th april; when the jewish community are not holding their 2023 passover until the 5th april 2023?

doesn't this mean that the jehovahs have got their date wrong?.

https://www.londonworld.com/read-this/passover-2023-what-is-passover-dates-and-greetings-4091833.

TD

...would someone explain to me why the Jehovah's witness community are holding their "lord's evening meal" on Tuesday 4th April; when the Jewish community are not holding their 2023 passover until the 5th April 2023?

JW's share the fundy belief that Christ as the "Lamb" had to die on the exact same day as the Passover lamb. Everything therefore must be crammed into a 24 hour period

On the 13th of Nisan, (By JW reckoning) JW's hurry home from work, get ready, and go to their Memorial. Although the preliminaries can begin before sundown, the actual passing of the emblems always occurs after sundown, when the 14th has technically just begun. The next day, when they wake up, it will still be the 14th and the 15th will not begin until the next sundown, nearly 24 hours after the JW celebration.

Numbers 33:3 very plainly states that the next daylight period after Passover was the 15th, not the 14th, so the JW's are a full 24 hours early in their observance.

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Is English a hybrid language?

by LoveUniHateExams in

jw
friends

the short answer is no, it is not.. i have heard one or two proposals that it is, including from langfocus, a usually excellent youtube channel.. but no, english is actually a germanic language which has borrowed many words from other languages.

here are several reasons why english is germanic at its core .... 1. verb forms.

i play - ich spiele.

TD

I agree.

I've also wondered at times if some of the quirks of American English are due to the German influence. (Substantial amount of German settlers in North America.)

For example, "Dumb" as a synonym for stupid. It's a lot like the German word, dumm, which does mean stupid.

Or the American usage of the word "already" as an intensifier. It functions exactly the same way the German word, "schon" does. --Do it already! / Mach es schon!

Or cardinal numbers as another example. American English omits the word, "and" for numbers higher than 100, just like German. --One hundred five / einhundertfünf

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If you have a question maybe I can help doctor of theology and one of Jehovah's witnesses

by Jehovahisgod in

my name is ari matthew davies.

i am a life experience consultant counselor i have a doctor's degree theology psychology clinical addictions and computer sciences.

i am also baptized as well as jehovah's witnesses.. if you have a question i've got a lot of experience and a lot of real life training.

TD

I have a doctor's degree theology psychology clinical addictions and computer sciences.

By my count (And if I'm understanding the sentence) that is four separate doctorates in four disparate fields (?)

I wonder how many years that took....

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Submission and stupid rules

by Lady Lee in

what a load of crap this stupid belief was.

i'll give you a couple of examples.

i was the sign language interpreter for our congregation and there was about 15-20 deaf who regularly showed up.

TD

It's not unheard of for a lady to experience something very similar at or near the cusp of menopause. My wife did.

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PRP (platelets) injections, are they effective? Do they REALLY work?

by Fisherman in

since health insurance doesn’t pay for prp injections, i am skeptical about it’s efficacy.

obviously if this treatment was necessary, it would be paid by health insurance.

don’t know much about prp except that the physician extracts blood from the patient and concentrates the platelets from the blood then injects the medicine into the affected site in the body to speed up healing of a torn ligament for example.. i saw an interesting statement in wt online site saying or implying that sub major components might be a personal decision and also using one’s own blood may be a personal decision, if i understood the information correctly..

TD

The problem here is whole platelets removed from the body

In JW terminology, platelets are a primary component, not a fraction.

For JW patients, the acceptability of all forms of autologous transfusion is decided using recirculation as the litmus test.

A blood patch is acceptable only if the syringe remains connected to the vein throughout the procedure. Blood salvage and isovolemic hemodilution became acceptable to the JW community only after these procedures were modified to recirculate a small amount of the patient's blood.

I'd guess that PRP therapy acceptable to JWs, would probably require the collection apparatus to remain connected to the patient throughout the procedure (?)

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PRP (platelets) injections, are they effective? Do they REALLY work?

by Fisherman in

since health insurance doesn’t pay for prp injections, i am skeptical about it’s efficacy.

obviously if this treatment was necessary, it would be paid by health insurance.

don’t know much about prp except that the physician extracts blood from the patient and concentrates the platelets from the blood then injects the medicine into the affected site in the body to speed up healing of a torn ligament for example.. i saw an interesting statement in wt online site saying or implying that sub major components might be a personal decision and also using one’s own blood may be a personal decision, if i understood the information correctly..

TD

Multiple studies have shown its efficacy for osteoarthritis in the knee

Here's a good example

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33523756/

--Not a "conscience matter" AFAIK, but I would be most interested to learn otherwise.