i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?
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Also, she had a picture of a young girl in her avatar probably in her early twenties, although by now she would be much older looking if she used a current picture.
Are you perhaps thinking of Leolaia?
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/users/7002/Leolaia
(Her avatar was/is the actress, Carey Mulligan from Dr. Who)
i'm not sure if anyone remembers me since i do not post here much anymore.
i sometimes pop in around christmas time to see if anyone is interested in exchanging christmas cards like we used to back when i first posted on this site.
speaking of which, the holiday season will soon be upon us.. if you recall, i was married to a jehovah's witness and i had a daughter i spoke of a lot.
I remember you well Gary
All the best
i would love to hear from anyone who may have encountered the following the traveling overseers:.
david wesley - an incredibly kind and humble man.
just the most down-to-earth co you'll ever find.
Angelo C. Manera - One of the best speakers I have ever heard....
--Not sure if it's the same guy, but a gentleman by the name of A.C. Manera Junior (Always introduced by that title) was a "District Overseer" in the Phoenix area decades ago.
My impression (Admittedly from a distance) was that he had a pretty bad case of "short man syndrome."
the pharisaical persuasion by stephane maillet.
the jews searched the scriptures daily because they thought salvation was within themselves.
they knew the law yet interpreted the text to their desires, burdening the people with heavy traditions and ordinances.
"Jew" is an ethnicity.
"Judaism" is the religion.
The author knows very little about either
mandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.
shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.
mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.
I agree with Simon and Lee Marsh.
I put personal choice on a very high pedestal, but this is not about the rights of the individual. This is about the rights we accord religious organizations.
You can argue that the sanctions a religion may impose are different than a government and I would agree, but in both cases, the result is harm to the individual.
Since we define religion (In the U.S.) as fundamentally charitable in nature, an organization should adhere to that definition if they want to be accorded the benefits of religious status.
is oktoberfest one of those holidays that jws can't celebrate?
is simply sitting in a beer tent as a tourist and imbibing a matter for the elders?.
The modern event and it's location at a fairground was based primarily on horse racing. Even the beer (And rotisserie chicken) for which it is known today, did not come until much later.
is oktoberfest one of those holidays that jws can't celebrate?
is simply sitting in a beer tent as a tourist and imbibing a matter for the elders?.
Outside of the context of alcoholism, Jehovah's Witnesses have spoken of it very neutrally in the past: (Perhaps not in English, but certainly in German)
(Wir beobachten die Welt g76 22. 1. S. 29-30)
◆ Das weltweit bekannte Münchner Oktoberfest war im Jahre 1975 ein Rekordfest. Dabei wurden nahezu 4,5 Millionen Maß Bier getrunken und annähernd 600 000 Hendl’n (Brathühner) verzehrt. Die Besucherzahl lag um rund 10 % höher als im Jahre 1974. Das Münchner Oktoberfest hat also trotz aller Sorgen um Park- und Sitzplatz seine Anziehungskraft weder im Inland noch im Ausland verloren. Im Gegenteil, der Werbeslogan „Leut — vergeßt die Kris’n, kommt’s auf die Wies’n“ wurde von etwa 6 Millionen befolgt, und die Sorgen wurden mit der nötigen Menge Bier „hinuntergespült“.
Similarly, it is not on the list of events they frown on today:
https://www.jw.org/de/jehovas-zeugen/oft-gefragt/jehovas-zeugen-feiertage-feste/
--Die Zeugen Jehovas, die ich kenne, machen sich darüber keine Sorgen
is oktoberfest one of those holidays that jws can't celebrate?
is simply sitting in a beer tent as a tourist and imbibing a matter for the elders?.
Oktoberfest is a 16/17 day long carnival/festival. It's not a holiday and not religious
JW's (AFAIK) don't have a problem with beer, folk music, or carnivals in general as long as there is no "reproach."
for a christian, only the moral commandments of the old testament are binding (as they cannot change), but the various liturgical, social, and other so-called casuistic laws no longer apply to them.
this includes dietary habits, such as the prohibition of pork or fat, as well as the prohibition of blood.. take a look at the following verses: mt 15:11, mk 7:15-19, acts 11:7-9, 1 tim 4:3-5.. the jehovah's witnesses say that, yes, but in the acts of the apostles (15) the consumption of blood, idol meat, and strangled animals is also prohibited, meaning the new testament still forbids it.
for catholics, the council of florence settled this issue, stating that this apostolic regulation was only a temporary measure to facilitate agreement between jews and gentiles in the early church.
EasyPrompt
(I ain't as concerned 'bout grammar as I am about substance.)
Even if we forget about the grammar of one of the most grammatically precise languages, the meaning is still driven by the context:
"abstain from food that has been offered to idols, from tasting blood, from the flesh of animals that have been strangled, and from sexual vice."
James Moffatt
"eat no food that has been offered to idols; eat no blood; eat no animal that has been strangled; and keep yourselves from immorality."
Today's English Version
"avoid what has been sacrificed to idols, tasting blood, eating the meat of what has been strangled and sexual immorality."
Phillip's Modern English
"You must abstain from eating food offered to idols, from consuming blood or eating the meat of strangled animals, and from sexual immorality."
New Living Translation
"abstain from eating food offered to idols and from unbled meat of strangled animals and of course from fornication."
The Living Bible
"Do only what is necessary by keeping away from food sacrificed to false gods, from eating bloody meat, from eating the meat of strangled animals, and from sexual sins."
God's Word Bible
“But you should not eat anything offered to idols. You should not eat any meat that still has the blood in it or any meat of any animal that has been strangled. You must also not commit any terrible sexual sins."
Contemporary English Version
"That you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols and from [tasting] blood and from [eating the meat of animals] that have been strangled and from sexual impurity."
The Amplified Bible
"You are to keep away from everything that has been given to gods. Do not eat blood or meat from animals that have been killed in ways against the Law. Keep away from sex sins"
New Life Version
"You must not eat food that has been given to idols. You must not eat the meat of animals that are killed by choking. You must not taste blood. You must not commit adultery. If you keep away from these things, you will do well. Goodbye."
The Bible in Worldwide English
I almost get the impression you believe the meaning is entirely subjective, in which case, there would be nothing to discuss.
for a christian, only the moral commandments of the old testament are binding (as they cannot change), but the various liturgical, social, and other so-called casuistic laws no longer apply to them.
this includes dietary habits, such as the prohibition of pork or fat, as well as the prohibition of blood.. take a look at the following verses: mt 15:11, mk 7:15-19, acts 11:7-9, 1 tim 4:3-5.. the jehovah's witnesses say that, yes, but in the acts of the apostles (15) the consumption of blood, idol meat, and strangled animals is also prohibited, meaning the new testament still forbids it.
for catholics, the council of florence settled this issue, stating that this apostolic regulation was only a temporary measure to facilitate agreement between jews and gentiles in the early church.
EasyPrompt
I have been quoting the same three words from Acts many times throughout this thread..."Abstain from blood."
--And I have pointed out over and over now that the statement was not made in an open context as you imply.
Worse, it's not even grammatically complete apart from the context in which it appears.
I doubt very much if you would allow scripture to be taken out of context on any other topic, so your repetition here is puzzling indeed.
