the following is an extract from an article i wrote when i left the watchtower 25 years ago.
it may be helpful in reasoning with a jw about the anointed/great crowd distinction.. --------------------------------.
to divide people into those with a heavenly hope and those with an earthly one is not a biblical concept.
Sanchy
" None of your reasoning above explains or proves in any way whatsoever that the supposedly resurrected Jesus didn't take a shit.
This idea remains your eisegetical assumption. Thx for the chuckle by the way. Hilarious subject."
A Shit is decay, it even produces maggots when left for days , Jesus was raised incorruptible . 1Cor 15:42. No way he would still have such decaying tendency , Funny enough, you couldn't counter the so called eisegetical assumption. Just sentiments as usual
the following is an extract from an article i wrote when i left the watchtower 25 years ago.
it may be helpful in reasoning with a jw about the anointed/great crowd distinction.. --------------------------------.
to divide people into those with a heavenly hope and those with an earthly one is not a biblical concept.
LoveUnityHateExams
" The ressurected Jesus need not defecate - but the pre-resurrected Jesus had to defecate, right?
Jesus was flesh and blood. Mary gave birth to him via her vagina, in the same way all other humans are born. "
Its either The ressurected Jesus is a spirit that only materialized therefore cannot excrete corrupt elements in form of feaces.
Or you are saying the ressurected Jesus that ate fish, is human, which I will ask- have you considered this means Jesus still harbor's DECAY since an human must Excrete decaying element called Feaces when they eat ? ( Matthew 15:17 )
the following is an extract from an article i wrote when i left the watchtower 25 years ago.
it may be helpful in reasoning with a jw about the anointed/great crowd distinction.. --------------------------------.
to divide people into those with a heavenly hope and those with an earthly one is not a biblical concept.
Sanchy
" This idea of Jesus not shidding after his supposed resurrection is strictly your assumption."
Not at all, To eliminate excretion/feaces would indicate Jesus harbor's DECAY . Which contradict 1Cor 15:42 .
But if he doesn't after eating that fish, then he is not human but a materialized spirit ... Matt 15:17 says " Do you not yet understand that WHATEVER enters the mouth goes into the stomach and IS ELIMINATED ? " Simple human biology
Anything else is not human. Comprehend ?
the following is an extract from an article i wrote when i left the watchtower 25 years ago.
it may be helpful in reasoning with a jw about the anointed/great crowd distinction.. --------------------------------.
to divide people into those with a heavenly hope and those with an earthly one is not a biblical concept.
One hope for all Christians , ' The Hope of everlasting life ' Titus 1:2 , . Since the one hope is everlasting life , does that not indicate there is No contradiction whatsoever with either going to heaven or living as humans on Earth ( Rev 21:3,4) , all have the same hope of everlasting life? ( John 3:16 )
Cc: cofty
the following is an extract from an article i wrote when i left the watchtower 25 years ago.
it may be helpful in reasoning with a jw about the anointed/great crowd distinction.. --------------------------------.
to divide people into those with a heavenly hope and those with an earthly one is not a biblical concept.
Loveunityhateexams
Jesus was a first-year century human being who allegedly went to heaven. You're gonna have to do better than that, fella. [/b]
He wasn't raised a human, he only materialized like angels did in the past . When an human eats , they defecate . The is not the same with angels when they materialize and ate . The ressurected Jesus need not defecate when he collects fish from his disciples cos he wasn't human. Genesis 5:2 an human is a creature with flesh and blood.
Corinthians 15 says it is sown a physical body and raised a Spiritual body. Spiritual by definition is not physical .
I repeat it again John 3:6 what is born again or born of spirit is SPIRIT . A hope of becoming Spirits not humans.
By now you should realize the significance of Paul's words " We shall be CHANGED " . No longer humans bro
how do you now explain Revelation 21:3,4 that says " Humans " of flesh and blood will dwell forever without dying ? - this doesn't explicitly state that humans will live forever on planet earth. If you maintain otherwise, it is up to you to show us your working out.
I'm not going to do your research for you.
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Those going to heaven must Be CHANGED
Humans ( flesh and blood ) cannot inheirt God's Kingdom in heaven . This is why those going to heaven must undergo a change. John 3:6 what is born of spirit is SPIRIT.
For this place to mention humans , they are still creatures of flesh and blood , not changed as spirits , shows they are not in heaven but Earth ( psalm 115:17 the Earth he has given to humans )
i could not find mention of this before.
i was reading genesis 8:22 in the niv and was surprised i had never noticed that this verse gives the impression that the earth will not remain forever.
genesis 8:22 stated by god after the flood, when promising to never again destroy all living creatures.. as long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease.
Whoever preach the Earth ending faces a serious dillema with Revelation 21:3,4 . It says " Humans " ( creatures of flesh and blood are the one named humans ) it didn't say Spirits. Shaking my head for some peeps . Jwfacts also wrote one nonsense on his website that the Bible nowhere speaks of an earthly ressurection. So for a case study , when the unrighteous ones of Acts 24:15 rise from dead , they will be in heaven, unrighteous ? You have to reason sensibly sometimes people.
the following is an extract from an article i wrote when i left the watchtower 25 years ago.
it may be helpful in reasoning with a jw about the anointed/great crowd distinction.. --------------------------------.
to divide people into those with a heavenly hope and those with an earthly one is not a biblical concept.
LoveunityhateExams , You said the the one hope is heavenly, how do you now explain Revelation 21:3,4 that says " Humans " of flesh and blood will dwell forever without dying ?
To the best of my knowledge, what is born of spirit is Spirit. Never humans. So how come humans will also live forever in their habitat ?
the following is an extract from an article i wrote when i left the watchtower 25 years ago.
it may be helpful in reasoning with a jw about the anointed/great crowd distinction.. --------------------------------.
to divide people into those with a heavenly hope and those with an earthly one is not a biblical concept.
Cofty, I pose a question to you. What exactly is the one hope of Christians ? Let's see if you are making sense. I want a direct answer
the following is an extract from an article i wrote when i left the watchtower 25 years ago.
it may be helpful in reasoning with a jw about the anointed/great crowd distinction.. --------------------------------.
to divide people into those with a heavenly hope and those with an earthly one is not a biblical concept.
In summary, What is the one hope for Christians ?
when the doctrine regarding 1935 being the close of the calling was done away with in 2007, it was not unexpected to see the number rise.
over the next few years it went from around 8,500 to 10,500. this seemed to indicate that there were a couple of thousand people that may have felt they had the calling all along, but too shy to profess it.
for the 30 year period between the mid 1978 and 2007, parktakers had barely dropped.
A usernamed vidqun keeps mentioning this dead point below
" What makes it worse is that they withhold the memorial and the partaking of the emblems from 7-8 million people and all those before them. Jesus made it clear: “Accordingly Jesus said to them, Most truly I say to YOU, Unless YOU eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, YOU have no life in yourselves (John 6:53 NWT).”
Focus on the UNLESS you eat , have you ? Good!
If am right, this will mean anyone who doesn't partake of emblem cannot have life Or gain everlasting life. If you are correct , I want an answer : Why would the thief on Jesus side who didn't eat the emblem be promised life in Paradise ?? Emphasis on " UNLESS YOU "
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