Dins: Finally someone mentions the cheese danish. We must not forget to give the cheese danish the respect and honor that it deserves. Although burritos and hoagies are very valued members of the convention food delegation, we should never forget the role that cheese danishes played in getting us through 3 endlessly boring convention days.
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34Overweight JWs -- on the increase?
by Seeker inyes, i know, the title is a pun.
it was deliberate.. i can recall in the 1970s seeing very few overweight jws.
in fact, i used to think (in my arrogant jw manner) that this was a sign of how jws were better at self-control than worldly people.
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A New Breed Of JW Emerging?
by Englishman inis there a new breed of jw emerging, i wonder?.
i know that there are lots of real brainwashed dubs around who see demons behind every car boot sale item and who scuttle off to the elders with every bit of tittle-tattle imaginable, but, i think that there is a new type of dub who quietly does just as he / she pleases.. this is what i think: many of the long-serving jw's who have seen the 1975 failure and the 1914 generation change are now approaching old age with something of a jaundiced eye, and are choosing to do their own thing in their remaining years.
in conversations i am picking up it seems that the elders are being regarded somewhat derisively by many jw's.
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tdogg
I have tried to stay completely away for 10 years so I havn't noticed any change. The ones in my family seem to be the same as always.
Black Man you said"I feel that a large percentage of JW's would leave, if they only had a support group to express their true feelings. Most JW are old timers, with many years in the org, so their thinking is - 'where would I go at this point in my life, I might as well stay, and keep my doubts to myself.'"
-I agree, and imagine how difficult for someone who has spent most of their life in, and then contemplate leaving. How do they admit to themselves that it was all for nothing? -
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The Mind of the Fanatic
by Dogpatch inthe mind of the fanatic.
steve k. dubrow-eichel.
[this column appeared in the "perspectives" page of the wilmington (de) news journal, on 9/23/01.].
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tdogg
Good post Randy. Ii almost seems that anytime we can view a group of people as a single entity, we are vulnerable to fanatical views.
When you hear phrases like "those people" and "you people" you can bet that some wild, blanket accusation will follow. And that type of thinking leads to fanaticism.Rex, I have noticed the change. Kind,well written posts as of late.
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Favorite Activity Since Leaving The Borg
by tyydyy injust about everyone i have talked to has started doing some different activities since leaving the borg.
just out of curiousity what would be your favorite activity?.
mine is flag football.
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tdogg
YES! Flag football! Momma says foosball is the devil but I play anyway. I love to play football and it was so painful not to be able to play when I was in school. I played as much as could in the neighborhood and now I play just about every week. Have played league football and I love it. Its fun to go out and play against people who have played in organized sports and still be competitive even though I didnt get to play when I was younger.
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WOL tightened security
by Moxy inall new registrants must be referals now.
and the contemplations forum where the only really interesting stuff ever is (e.g.
the 'free to remarry' thread) is being made private.
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tdogg
Jeeessus Christ RR! Im blind! Holy crap! You need to warn a couple of posts in advance before you assault mine eyes. At least let us know so that we can scroll down slowly, cause that is a lot to take in with one screenful. Whew! When she has a crush on you, she REALLY has crush on you.
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Are "you all" morons OR am I the moron?
by Victoria Cruz infrom what i understand the wtbts is not affiliated with the un but the dpi (department of public information).
if i am right... you all are the morons.
if i am wrong the i am the moron.
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tdogg
No Vicky babe you are the moron!
Vicky: No you are!
Everbody else: No you are!
Vicky: Twat!
Everbody else: Are you for real?
Vicky: A-holes!
Everybody else: Umm?
Vicky: You all suck and I hate you because I am smart and you're not.
ME: YOU are the weakest link! Goodbye.
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The bros. at ground 0
by tdogg infrom wol:.
"someone from gc sent this e-mail to me.
it is a very nice and encouraging experience.. hi everyone, .
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tdogg
How about this: "But the report from Ground Zero is really heartwarming. My eyes were almost in tears as a warm feeling came up to me as I read the courage and love these brothers had for the workers and how people no matter how strong and powerful they look like needs the comfort of the Scriptures as the real source of strength. That day, those elders were really angels sent to Ground Zero"
Now elders are angels as well.
And some one pipes in with this "I wonder how the brothers felt at the end of that day.
Would they be sad because of the sights they had seen and the despair they had encountered - or would they be full of joy that they had been used by Jehovah in such a marvelous way?
Perhaps both?
It must have taken a lot of courage and prayer to do what they did"Why would they be sad, that event saved those people from dying at armageddon. Courage? Courage was running into a buring skyscraper to save someones life.
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The bros. at ground 0
by tdogg infrom wol:.
"someone from gc sent this e-mail to me.
it is a very nice and encouraging experience.. hi everyone, .
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tdogg
I just find hillarious that these stories are always from "somebody who emailed me a story about someone who works with someone who knows an elder who is in the congregation where the brother who was with another brother who" did the thing.
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The bros. at ground 0
by tdogg infrom wol:.
"someone from gc sent this e-mail to me.
it is a very nice and encouraging experience.. hi everyone, .
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From WOL:
"Someone from GC sent this e-mail to me. It is a very nice and encouraging experience.
Hi Everyone,We were very happy to hear the news this morning that elders have been assigned to bring comfort to people in different areas of Manhattan such as Jacob Javits Center, hospitals and Ground Zero. This was an experience shared from a sister I work with in Graphics. Seven elders selected from
her circuit in Brooklyn are assigned to Ground Zero. An elder from her congregation gave a report of their experiences. He and another elder paired up to work together and were a little apprehensive, not knowing what to expect. As soon as they started talking though, all apprehension went away, the brother said; "it just seemed natural to truly get to comfort these men." Just shows how Jehovah's spirit can help us at the
right time. They started on the perimeters and went up to two policemen and showed them scriptures of comfort and talked about the new system. They mentioned that they would like to get in closer to Ground Zero. The
policemen hugged them, thanked them for coming by and said how much the men closer in would need to hear this. They kept going closer in and were able to talk to different policemen and firemen they met. At the next
perimeter was the National Guard who said they needed special permission to go any further. They directed them to the Marines office to get permission. When they went in the office, the brother said it was the
biggest Marine you have ever seen, very intimidating. They didn't ask for permission, just started witnessing to him; tears came in his eyes. He was unbelievably kind and happy to hear the good news. He said the men really need to hear this and said "Go back to the National Guard and tell
them you have permission to enter". The brothers went back but the National Guard said they needed something in writing. At the same time a group of clergymen arrived (they had previous authorization to go in). So the brothers returned to the Marine who wrote a letter stating they could go anywhere they wanted to, then stamped it to make it official. The brothers returned to the National Guard. At that time the clergymen were already back; they had not brought any comfort to anyone, they were only there to take a TOUR! The clergy asked the brothers what scriptures they planned on using, etc. The brothers asked them what they were sharing and they said "BOTTLED WATER". Then the National Guard told the brothers even though they had authorization, no one else could go in that day. So the next morning, bright and early, the brothers arrive. The National Guard told them that
they were not letting any clergy in that day. The brothers showed them their letter and they said, "oh, you can go anywhere you want." The brothers said it is 100 times worse than anything you see on TV! The
destruction, etc. worse than a war zone. Rescue workers looking like zombies working. They talked with a group of steelworkers (all big men that would usually intimidate you) The men had tears in their eyes as
they shared the scriptures and told the brothers that there was a place where they really needed to go. It was a boat set up at the Marina for rescue workers that were just burned out. The Red Cross was providing
meals there. They found it and said it would just make you cry to see the people. Men looking so lost, with their heads down, just not able to cope with all that they are seeing. They just sat down with them and talked, sharing scriptures. They said there was not a dry eye in the place. The men thanked them so much for coming, saying they REALLY needed this. The brothers spent a few hours with them. They also met a man who drives a little cart that is taking bodies and body parts to the morgue. He was just leaned over his steering wheel. They asked if he was ok and he just started crying, they hugged him and he cried unbelievably for about 10 minutes. After he pulled himself together, they shared some scriptures with him. He told them how much he appreciated it and how much people need to hear this.So sure there will be even more good experiences with all the efforts of our brothers. Just wanted to share this with you..."
My, the tales that be told....
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Pledge of Allegiance
by Celia inpoor jw kids all aver america :.
to: vermont school board members.
from: edie miller.
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tdogg
I went to my daughters kindergarten orientation thingy. They had everyone stand up and say the pledge and I didnt say it. It felt very strange to be in that situation again. I dont like the pledge of alegiance and if my girl decided she didnt want to say it, I would support that to the end. I have not told her she shouldn't say it but I am sure it will come up some day.
I suppose since I was raised a JW, I was not indoctrinated the same as most in this country. I find the the idea of pledging my allegiance to a flag somewhat silly. I love my country and I revere those who were willing to fight for it but that does not compell me to say a chant. I wish they would stop doing this ritual in public places.