Posts by terafera

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Dear Robert

by Mann in

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dear robert, i have done quiet a lot of research into the jw's doctrines.

you see; i had to make an important decision on where i stood as far as jw's are concerned.this chat site was very helpful.

i have taken the most controversial members ( lol there are only three of you)from this site, in opposition to eachother and used your arguments and reasongings to "help" make my mind over on what i would do.. the thing that struck me most about your arguments were: you kept giving glory to jehovah and his son, you used scriptures to back up your points (glad you didn't give out where to find those scriptures) you didn't make excuses for the wtbs errors, and misdeeds, and the most important point was your pointing out that jehovah himself will judge and spank his own people.

terafera

Mann,
I'm sure you use the name calling so I will participate in your little game. It's funny.... the only people that have ever called me a b**** were Jehovah's Witnesses... my mother, a girl in school, and you. Ironic.

I can see so much anger in you... pray to God for help. The nastiness in you derives from so much abuse and neglect.. spiritual, emotional and mental. Allow God back in your life... dont look to man for LOVE or ACCEPTANCE.

You do not know me very well. Go click on all my posts and show me one hateful or bitter post. I am an honest person, and post true events or feelings. But I am not hateful or bitter.

I truly hope the best for you. I hate how so many disfellowshipped ones feel self hatred or that they will be back 'in God's favor' when they are reinstated. God's favor is already yours. You dont have to fight for it.

Please keep us posted as to how you do. I am wishing the best for you.

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Dear Robert

by Mann in

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friends

dear robert, i have done quiet a lot of research into the jw's doctrines.

you see; i had to make an important decision on where i stood as far as jw's are concerned.this chat site was very helpful.

i have taken the most controversial members ( lol there are only three of you)from this site, in opposition to eachother and used your arguments and reasongings to "help" make my mind over on what i would do.. the thing that struck me most about your arguments were: you kept giving glory to jehovah and his son, you used scriptures to back up your points (glad you didn't give out where to find those scriptures) you didn't make excuses for the wtbs errors, and misdeeds, and the most important point was your pointing out that jehovah himself will judge and spank his own people.

terafera

((DakotaRed))

Where are elders and
others when a child shows up black and blue?

I can answer that question. The elders are telling me I need to study more, not sass my mother and get out in service.
The others in the congregation are looking the other way, uncomfortably, until my black and blue marks fade... making the abuse I endured a little easier for them to swallow.

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Dear Robert

by Mann in

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dear robert, i have done quiet a lot of research into the jw's doctrines.

you see; i had to make an important decision on where i stood as far as jw's are concerned.this chat site was very helpful.

i have taken the most controversial members ( lol there are only three of you)from this site, in opposition to eachother and used your arguments and reasongings to "help" make my mind over on what i would do.. the thing that struck me most about your arguments were: you kept giving glory to jehovah and his son, you used scriptures to back up your points (glad you didn't give out where to find those scriptures) you didn't make excuses for the wtbs errors, and misdeeds, and the most important point was your pointing out that jehovah himself will judge and spank his own people.

terafera

Mann,
There are so many sad things that I see in your posts... where can I begin?

You spew out hateful and bitterness and say 'If you cant respect my God do you really think I give a damn about you?'

Jehovah is not YOUR God. He created us all... sees us as His children. Do you really think He loves you or any Witness more than any other human?

You said, b'ut too much holy information to swine's.' .. why are the people here swine? Because they think differently than you? Why call ones here scum? Does it make you feel better? Smarter? More special?

I used to think like you.... I would hear people voice their doubts about the Society and laugh. 'Sick, twisted worldly people', I would think. It took years to realize that I was the sick and twisted one. I know now that there is good and bad everyone.... not all good in the Hall and all bad in the world. That kind of thinking makes you feel all fuzzy and safe, doesnt it? But the truth is that neither Jehovah nor Jesus thinks in those terms.

Have you ever thought that maybe some are so hateful or against the Society because they have been done wrong?? Because of pain??
I dont discredit Jehovah or the Bible.... only the imperfect humans choking me around the neck with it.

You said thats why Jehovah didnt allow them to stay. 'ALLOW' THEM TO STAY? It's called free choice. You can leave or stay in any organization.... Jehovah allows everyone free choice. Show me one person He has forced to stay in the Organization. It's free will!

If you feel happier serving God, *ahem*, man, in the Society, so be it. But why call others names? It might appear that you are on the moral high ground, but in reality you have lowered yourself way beyond a place I can reach.

Peace to you.

p.s.- You also say,'I'm not reinstated I'll talk any damn way I want.' As if to say that when you're reinstated you will watch how you walk and talk. Isn't that a bit hypocritical??? Shouldnt you live a Christ-like life no matter what??

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Role Play among the Dubs

by Duncan in

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dear all, .

this is my 100th post, and i decided to repost something i originally did as a post on h2o a couple of years ago.

it was a reply to somebody, and buried miles-deep in the thread, so hopefully it wont have been read by too many already.

terafera

DUNCAN,
Great post. It really got me thinking.. I really enjoy your posts.

William,
You got it!
That was me.... I stupidly fell out of the 'routine' catch-phrase when we were out in service. This is how it went...

SISTER #1: *sigh* Things are so hard nowadays, I cant wait for Jehovah to destroy this system!!

SISTER #2: *sigh* Girl, I know it! These truly are the last days... its so hard...

ME: (in disbelief) What? I think things are pretty good! There are cures for diseases that used to kill or cripple, we are getting more and more technology that eases life and encourages communication with loved ones..even what is considered 'middle class' in America is pretty lavish considering what other countries have! I'm pretty lucky..

SISTER #1: (Staring at me in absolute horror) WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???? YOU ARE SO SPIRITUALLY IMMATURE!!! HOW CAN YOU....

SISTER #2 interrupts: Sister #1, Terafera is not baptized. I"m sure she will rectify her thinking after she dedicates her life to Jehovah.

SISTER #1: *flustered* Oh... um.... okay... well.... I guess I can understand that.... *fixing hair*... well I just mean.. you know.. this IS the last days and all...

This is a true story.

It happened a few months before I walked away for good.

Talking with a JW is like banging your head on the wall. Except you have a greater chance at getting through the wall.

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How many of you have kissed Hank's ass?

by Kaethra in

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im john, and this is mary.. mary: hi!

he can do whatever he wants, and what he wants is to give you a million dollars, but he cant until you kiss his ass.

me: do you know anyone who kissed hanks ass, left town, and got the million dollars?

terafera

LMBO...

Too good. I'm keeping this one! But I have a feeling when I tell it to my JW family, they will stick their fingers in their ears too!

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I JUST GOT CRISIS OF CONSCIENCE!!

by terafera in

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i just got back from barnes and nobles... i finally got it!!

woohoo!!.

i may not see you guys for a while... i cant wait to read it.. .

terafera

Yes I'm thoroughly enjoying it! I must admit, there is alot of heavy stuff to 'chew' on. In some ways I have to read and reread it over again... it might be my age, or that I was pretty young when I left and didnt have a deep knowledge on what the JW's fully believed. I can't believe how easy it is to comprehend his point though, and yet it's sick to see how the Witnesses have automatic 'brain fry' when they attempt to answer the questions I have.

I read parts of the book to my mother (a DF'd person, although still very much brainwashed). While she agreed with some of what he says, she would pull the topic off course and say how it still is God's Organization.. even if they make mistakes.

It's so frustrating trying to reason with the JW mentality!! Like Ray Franz says, there takes so much mental gymnastics to get to their reasoning. [>:(]

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I JUST GOT CRISIS OF CONSCIENCE!!

by terafera in

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i just got back from barnes and nobles... i finally got it!!

woohoo!!.

i may not see you guys for a while... i cant wait to read it.. .

terafera

I just got back from Barnes and Nobles... I finally got it!! Woohoo!!

I may not see you guys for a while... I cant wait to read it.

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Just reading, a JW paralell-interesting

by ashitaka in

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"ryan wondered how difficult it was for the soviets.

" (who had defected) "probably harder than anything he had ever done-their bridges were burned.

they had cast themselves away from everything they had known, trusting that what they found would be better.

terafera

Very good point.. I can see the paralells too.

Enjoy the book!

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Example of the difference between men & women

by expatbrit in

remember the book "men are from mars, women are from venus"?.

well, here's a prime example offered by an english.

story: (first paragraph by rebecca).

terafera

LOL

Well I write and I'd never torture myself by letting a man write with me!!!

hee hee

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BOOK DONATION CAMPAIGN ANYBODY?

by Trotafox in

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i mentioned this topic on sleepy's thread but i'd like to have some input please from others on this board.

what i want to know is this: there are so many books available on the net that have been written by other ex-jw's who have been there and know the truth about the borg (other than rf).

what criteria do stores like barnes & noble and christian books stores use to stock particular book titles?

terafera

I think it's a great idea. I'm on my way now to go pick of CofC.. I ordered it 2 weeks ago from Barnes and Noble. They say its hard to get a copy and they dont publish it anymore.. that is discouraging.

I think it should be easier to get access to stories about people that lived through the Watchtower experience.