Posts by scratchme1010

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Can Jws s go to Labor Day Parades? {USA}

by greenhornet in

will they get df ed for doing it?.

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They expect people not to be part of the world. At best, they will point out that the time and energy spent in the parade should have been better spent preaching. At worst, you can get disfellowshipped (depending on the elders you have to deal with).

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The glaring inequity between the 144,000 & the Great Crowd

by deegee in

there is a glaring inequity between the 144,000 & the great crowd (gc):.

the gc will experience:.

1. the great tribulation - a gruelling/horrifying time which has never occurred before.. 2. armageddon.. 3. a thousand years of “loving” molding and refinement.. 4. a second armageddon at the end of the thousand years.. the 144,000 will experience none of these things.. isn't it strange that the gc has to prove themself so much but the 144,000 don't???!!!

scratchme1010

There is a glaring inequity between the 144,000 & the Great Crowd (GC):
The GC will experience:
1. The Great Tribulation - a gruelling/horrifying time which has never occurred before.
2. Armageddon.
3. A thousand years of “loving” molding and refinement.
4. A second Armageddon at the end of the thousand years.
The 144,000 will experience NONE of these things.
Isn't it strange that the GC has to prove themself so much but the 144,000 don't???!!!!

Not to mention that this whole mess supposedly started by Adam, Even and Satan. How's that for fairness?

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The problem of sex (or why I'm not an atheist)

by EdenOne in

as i write this under the shadow of the walls of saint jorge's castle in lisbon, two very bored jws are standing just five metres away from me with a literature cart .... in my journey away from jwism i accepted evolution as a fact.

i also became anti-religion, agnostic and apatheist.

and, while i lean towards the persuasion of the atheist arguments, there are a few reasons that make it difficult for me to completely discard the notion of an intelligent origin of life.

scratchme1010

...I have decided to lead my life where evidence takes me...

Exactly. I see choice there.

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How would a jc be conducted by the elders concerning one that's claims he's anointed?

by Crazyguy in

what applies to the dump class and the anointed class has to be completely different because the new testament applies to the anointed and not to the dumb class also known as the jonadab class , so what do you think?

has any ex elders here had any experience in this?.

scratchme1010

What applies to the dump class and the anointed class has to be completely different because the New Testament applies to the anointed and not to the dumb class also known as the jonadab class , so what do you think? Has any ex elders here had any experience in this?

Not necessarily with the "anointed". I saw a few elders who were the typical narcissistic manipulator hiding behind the bible and the jehovah nonsense to always be an exception to the rules.

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Reason why you didn't have the Heavenly hope, Anointed..

by James Mixon in

when i found out what was in store for those with the heavenly hope, no thank you.

i love you jehovah.

but i also love the fruits here on earth.

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When I found out what was in store for those with the heavenly hope, no thank you. I love you Jehovah
but I also love the fruits here on earth. The earth Paradise seemed a lot more appealing than flying around
in heaven and looking down on the folks here on earth having fun. Here on earth there is eating, drinking and
sex. Some of the angels got in trouble from viewing all the action here on earth.
My question what is so appealing about JW belief about the heavenly hope?????

I also said "no thank you" when i was a JW, but for the reasons that follow:

According to the Encyclopedia of Mental Disorders, here's a list of mental disorders that cause a person the dilusion of being chosen by god:

psychotic disorders, or disorders in which the affected person has a diminished or distorted sense of reality and cannot distinguish the real from the unreal, including schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder, delusional disorder, schizophreniform disorder, shared psychotic disorder, brief psychotic disorder, and substance-induced psychotic disorder
bipolar disorder
major depressive disorder with psychotic features
delirium
dementia

Additionally, delusions and overvalued ideas may be present in people with anorexia nervosa, obsessive-compulsive disorder, body dysmorphic disorder, or hypochondriasis.

Though there are different ways of categorizing delusions related to mental health issues, one common way of classifying them is by "theme". There are several categories of delusion "themes":

Delusion of control
Nihilistic delusion
Delusional jealousy (or delusion of infidelity)
Delusion of guilt or sin (or delusion of self-accusation)
Delusion of mind being read
Delusion of reference
Erotomania
Grandiose delusion
Persecutory delusions
Religious delusion
Somatic delusion

The ones I highlighted in bold are the ones that i noticed in some of the "anointed" people I knew when I grew up as a JW. I never met one of those JWs claiming to be anointed who wasn't a nut case.

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Benefits to Faith over Reason

by cobweb in

i wrote this earlier for my own benefit in order to get some thoughts straight in my head.

it is just my own personal pondering on what i think might be the motivating force behind having a faith.

it is not intended to attack, provoke or patronize anyone who has a belief and i hope it is not taken in that way.

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I think along the lines of what dubstepped posted. Faith gets you through tough times when you don't have the answers of emotional capacity to deal with certain life events (or with life itself).

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Are there any scriptures that indicate believers would die at Armageddon?

by Crazyguy in

probably a stupid question and you'll all point a bunch of scripture but i thought i would ask anyway?.

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Probably a stupid question and you'll all point a bunch of scripture but I thought I would ask anyway?

Considering that there are so many people making so many life changing decisions around this, I wouldn't call it a stupid question.

If you ask me, before talking about "the scriptures" supporting anything, I'd question the entire concept of the bible. The bible is the most unreliable and insanely ineffective way of communicating something that is supposed to be so important that you have to change your entire life around it.

Written thousands of years ago, when humanity had the most naive way of seeing the world, written in very limited languages and written in the form of prophecy, visions, and figurative language, and written by many people during a span of centuries (if not millenniums) doesn't look to me like "God" had too much interest in being clear about his so-called message.

Any simple tweet today is 1000% more effective than any idea conveyed in the bible. Just sayin'

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What Songs Best Fit you when you learned TATT and Afterwards?

by Wasanelder Once in

the work of john lennon best fit my situation.

first, i found out.

i found out.

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This Gotta Be The Good Life

from OneRepublic

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"We Must Obey the Org - Rather Than God!"

by The Searcher in

before geoffrey jackson of the governing body was questioned by the australian royal commission, he was asked whether he wanted to swear on the bible or take an affirmation; he chose to swear on the bible.

the present governing body of jehovah's witnesses (including jackson) deems that swearing on the bible is a matter of conscience!.

w03 1/15 p. 21 questions from readers - "is it scripturally acceptable for a christian to place his hand on the bible and swear to tell the whole truth in court?

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They do as they please and find a bibical reason to do so... imagine that!

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The problem of sex (or why I'm not an atheist)

by EdenOne in

as i write this under the shadow of the walls of saint jorge's castle in lisbon, two very bored jws are standing just five metres away from me with a literature cart .... in my journey away from jwism i accepted evolution as a fact.

i also became anti-religion, agnostic and apatheist.

and, while i lean towards the persuasion of the atheist arguments, there are a few reasons that make it difficult for me to completely discard the notion of an intelligent origin of life.

scratchme1010

In my journey away from JWism I accepted evolution as a fact.

This is where I find an issue. The JWs promote this black and white mentality, that if you don't believe their nonsense then you have to believe the opposite. Where does it say anywhere that one has to become an atheist or evolutionist simply because you don't believe in religion or the bible?

Something that I learn was that the WT not only tells people what they are supposed to be, do and believe, but also tells them what they are supposed to be, do and believe if they leave. So, EdenOne, look for how much of your way of thinking may still be influenced by the way the WT promotes that people should think. Your post still resembles that all-or-nothing, black and white mentality. You don't need to be an atheist to believe in evolution, you don't need to believe in evolution to be an atheist, you don't need to constantly look for scientific proof if you truly believe in intelligent design. Your belief is just your choice.