Posts by scratchme1010

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An Un-Shun Day

by Heartsafire in

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i was thinking about how many of us here are either being shunned or know someone who is being shunned.

although highly unlikely, it would be wonderful if this horrible practice was completely eliminated.. i know we have the wt victims memorial day in the summer, but does anyone know of any grassroots sort of movement to have a jw break the silence day on shunning?

we could encourage and promote for all jw's who have a df'd friend or family member to contact that person on that day--maybe even with the excuse that they need to check on them.. i know that it won't demolish the shunning policy, but at least a day like this could shed some light on the harmful practice to those outside the jw community as well as providing an unofficial designated day for jws to reach out to those they're shunning.

scratchme1010

I know we have the WT Victims Memorial Day in the summer, but does anyone know of any grassroots sort of movement to have a JW Break the Silence Day on shunning?

I guess that it could be a good idea for those who still give the Wt power that they don't really have. This seems based on the premise that the WT is the one with the last word about relationships with family, and that them and only them are the ones calling the shots about the matter.

I'm more incline of advocating for showing those JWs how much they are missing from their love ones and reminding them that they are responsible for breaking families. Advocating for them changing their policies is giving them power that they are not entitled to, and gives the message that they are the ones making all decisions about relationships.

With my JW family I have been a lot more effective showing them how much they are missing from me. They have to contact me and they cannot talk to me about any JW nonsense, and they are the ones who have to ask for permission to talk to me. That has been quite an eye opener for some of them and showed the idiots JW I grew up with that they do not have the upper hand.

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My first memoir of a life as a born in.

by ctrwtf in

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with no guarantees as to performance, i'm going to attempt to regularly address in memoir form some of the issues that i think about as a born in that has faded.

i will try to do so on a (semi) regular basis.

like proust and his madelienes, i've noticed that certain experiences trigger memories about the cult that just won't go away.

scratchme1010

Now, before you think this is some elitist crap, let me say that the DW and I are working stiffs that are doing without to help our kid make it through the zoo that is high school. Most of the parents that were there are in the same boat, trying to give their kids a leg up in this world, which leads to my point...

Thank you for sharing. I like the idea of posting your memoirs. I'm sure it will be of help to many of us.

The part that I quoted from you made me think about a tendency that I still have to justify things that I do and decisions I make. I believe that when I still feel like I have to defend something I do it's the JW upbringing talking. I'm sure few people or nobody at all will question you being an "elitist", or say anything if you in fact are one. No need to justify your child's good opportunities. I'm sure you're happy to provide it for him, and I'm sure your child deserves it.

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Cold war on homefront!

by LifesNotOver in

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a few months back i let it be known to my husband that i was no longer interested in anything jw related.

when he took it to the elders, without actually divulging anything that might get me disfellowshipped like apostasy - well, he just basically told them i was all depressed and discouraged and everything and that i didn't want to be contacted by the elders about it.

i don't know what he actually told them, word for word, or what they actually said to him word for word, but he told me they told him not to do anything spiritual with me at home anymore - no bible study, praying, daily text, meetings via phone, jw broadcasting, discussions, etc.

scratchme1010

Sorry to hear that you're going through rough time. What precipitated the conversation about your new way of thinking? Seems like it was something that happened without planning, and those things I know happen.

My suggestion to you is to get rid of that stinking thinking bout you ending up out on the street all by yourself. This is your chance to start building your own support system, your own friends, your own people you can count on, your own career and your own decisions. Feels horrible to start feeling the reality of the division and destruction in marriages and families that the WT causes in people. But make no mistake, that is their doing.

Maybe some individual counseling with a professional that knows how to talk to people who have beein involved in cults or controlling relationships.

And also, here we are. I can't vouch for anyone else, but know that many of us really know how you feel right now. We get it.

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Question Anointed , If they are too sick or too old to attend the memorial.

by James Mixon in

i never encountered this as a elder, but if one that profess to be of the anointed is too ill to attend the.

the memorial do the brothers take the emblems to the sick??.

in the baptist church( after leaving the borg) i was assign to take the emblems to the sick and shut in on.

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I actually know of one person who was sick for the memorial and he claimed to be anointed. He said that all he did was pray all night. The people in the congregation had some uneasiness around him anyway, so nobody really cared.

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jw party goes very wrong.

by cobweb in

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https://youtu.be/q6b77gm8xxi.

came across this audio recording on youtube which i found compelling.

an xjw recounts the story of how jws recently had a big party in the us.

scratchme1010

As I always say, claiming that you are not part of the world doesn't make that true.

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Is this an "all-time" Low?

by Je.suis.oisif in

i just wanted to vent, nothing more.

my aunt died in edinburgh last week.

her obituary facilitates adding candles & personal messages.

scratchme1010

Has anyone else knowledge of this type of informal witnessing. If it is what I think it is. It just grates my carrot :÷(

Yes, in fact, it's very common for JWs to use somebody's loss to push their proselytizing.

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We all "shun."

by stillin in

an old friend of mine committed suicide this week.

he was a great guy; pleasant to be around, a hard worker, kind.

everybody at work liked him.. then something changed.

scratchme1010

My condolences for losing your friend. I'm sorry that you lost him that way. You never know what is going through people's minds when they act the way they do. And even with the change sin behavior, there's no way to read all the signs of a person becoming suicidal.

And yes, there have been people who have become suicidal and gone through it too.and wound up dead thanks to the WT. The WT doesn't care at all of anything that has to do with mental health. If at all, they mention one or two things to release legal liability for the damage they do to people.

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Letter: Mexico special preaching campaign 2016/2017

by StarTrekAngel in

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0b6b33rjkq_hfmvdutgjsbnhzm3c/view?usp=sharing.

see translation bellow.. dear brothers:.

we are glad to inform you about our next preaching campaign for the 2017 service year, in order to help spread the message of the good news "to the ends.

scratchme1010

We will not accept requests from groups made entirely of single pioneers where there is both genders (Clarifcation note by STA.. no single ladies mixed up with single dudes unless there is someone to watch them). If there are more than ten requests from the same group, they must form a separate group with their own captain.

I always loved that policy (I'm gay).

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Visit From Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

had two lovely jws (stephen and ruth) visit this morning.

this was our second study in the last 2 weeks.

they first knocked on my door (bell is out) 3 weeks ago and i shared my testimony and we arranged to meet last tuesday which we did.. our first study went like this:.

scratchme1010

My take, we're talking about a book that was written thousands of years ago, in extremely limited languages, at a time when humanity was the most naive in their world views, and written in parables, visions, and dreams.

At this point in time and space in the history of humanity, I think that using that book to debate anything relevant to humanity today is just ridiculous.

The bible is one of the most ancient, obsolete, antiquated and useless book in the entire planet right now. I'd rather get guidance from Microsoft Office 4.0 for DOS than the bible.

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Found Another Medieval Coin This Evening

by cofty in

i got in an hour metal detecting this evening and found this almost immediately.. it is a silver penny of henry ii minted in london by "davi" between 1180 and 1189. this adds a king i didn't have in my collection.

i now have the series of henry ii - john - henry iii - edward i - edward ii - edward iii.. i now need richard the lionheart to fill in the gap.

he was the brother of john and reigned after the death of henry ii.

scratchme1010

That's great! Now I wonder if you are on some kind of archaeological site.