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  Nic's Alternative Xmas Message.

  by nicolaou in

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  i've done a few of these over the years but this time it's very simple.. beware jc, the bearded man who promises salvation and raises the hopes of many.

  read his words of division if you're ever tempted to join his followers, or just ignore him and enjoy your life.

  happy holidays everyone!

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  Merry Christmas to everyone.
  
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  If gossiping was a D.Fing offence how many in your congro would be D.Fed?

  by karter in

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  there goes at least half the elders wife's alot of the publishers.

  karter.

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  If gossiping was a D.Fing offence how many in your congro would be D.Fed?
  

  hard to answer this questions for any Puerto Rican. Gossip (bochinche) is the number one activity in my culture. I guess that being an island there's nowhere else to go so people turn to each other.

  That aside, I think gossip is the real way congregations are run. A lot of people are in denial about how effective a gossip related system helps maintaining control of the people in it. It's the perfect manipulation from the WT since they keep their people at bay by letting it happen and their hands are clean.

  Do you notice how they have so strong hold of every single other aspect of people's behavior, education, life decisions, etc, but when it comes to gossip they address it only when it doesn't lead the way they want it to go? They do not attack gossiping in congregations as strongly as any other behavior, and that's because there's something valuable in it for their interest.

  So to answer the question, gossip, especially the malicious, slanderous type is very common in every congregation, as it is part of the JW culture.
  
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  Are jehovahs witnesses blood guilty for teaching and preaching false doctrine?

  by atomant in

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  lm curious to know how others feel about this subject.for me its blatently obvious the gb make things up as time passes by and the sheep bow down with blind obedience without questioning.lts like the blind leading the blind..

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  Are jehovahs witnesses blood guilty for teaching and preaching false doctrine?
  

  Yes.
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  initiative..

  by zeb in

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  there is n o end to human initiative to bring a moments happiness.

  i jus received this love and best wishes to ye all.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h965m0hkk5m.

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  Cute. Thanks for sharing.
  
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  1975 statements

  by A Believer in

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  from jw org.

  “six thousand years of human existence”.

  in 1969 the watchtower magazine in czech began publishing a series of articles based on the book life everlasting—in freedom of the sons of god.

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  The office in Czechoslovakia sent a letter dated February 22, 1972, to all congregations. It set out a lengthy explanation of reasons why we should not make any definite assertions about the date when Armageddon will strike. It pointed out that no publication of the Society had said that Armageddon will come in a certain year. The letter concluded: “Jehovah’s Witnesses around the world are familiar with these facts, and no one should add any personal claims as to what will happen before or during the year 1975. There are no Scriptural grounds for any claims, and they could have a detrimental effect on the preaching work. Strive, therefore, that you ‘all speak in agreement and that there be no divisions among you but that you may be fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought.’ (1 Cor. 1:10) For concerning that day and hour nobody knows.”—Matt. 24:36.
  

  What's the point of any of this? Is that supposed to cancel everything else that the Wt has claimed and then changed? Besides, high demand, controlling cults like the JWs never take a full stand of anything, especially something that comes out of their behinds about a date to the end of the world. Of course "they never said such thing", the never do. They "always do" when things actually happen". The rest is about instilling fear and gossiping around.
  
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  "Intelligent" Witnesses

  by megaboy in

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  after reading some experiences, i have found that this organization has had quite a big change in its operations within the last decade.

  back when i was talking to the ocassional witnesses at a local hotspot i remember some of them having respectable intelligence.

  what i want to know though is those who have been aquainted with who they felt were more educated and independent in thinking, how they handled the rapid changes.

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  Did they give a benefit of doubt to the organization despite the clear signs that there is no solid respect for "truth" and its really just like other religions?

  Hard to say about every single JW in the planet. In general, the one thing that remains a constant in the JWs is that they are a controlling group, which means that it requires independent thinking in order for people to have the capacity to give the benefit of the doubt.

  Did anyone experiences others that had wake up calls and leave? Did most choose to fade? Did others make statements before leaving?

  Look in this forum and see for yourself. There are plenty of people who had wake up calls and left. Do you mean in any of use personally met a person who decided that the JWs are full of --it and left? Otherwise, the fact that you are posting in a forum like this, like, should give you a clue.

  I had researched that their HQ had a lot of layoffs and people were homeless and were lied to by the head honchos. Did this have any large scale effect? Was it kept under raps and spun?

  Huh?
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  Quotation in book - what are your thoughts

  by Tallon in

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  been away for a couple of months as i felt that i needed a break.

  during this period i completed reading a book (fiction), titled; conclave - authored by robert harris.

  there is a very interesting sentence in the book which got me thinking.

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  How would that even work?
  

  "Pride is one's humility" makes sense to me. People tend to confuse having pride and humility with showing off pride and humility. What you normally see in people's "pride" is bragging, being self righteous, cocky and show-off about how spiritual they are.
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  J.W. Elders Are Knowingly Complicit

  by The Searcher in

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  for anyone who denies that the wtbts teaches jehovah's witnesses & potential converts lies and perversions of scriptures via their literature, here is a prime example:

  w88 2/15 p. 9 further corrective counsel - "but because of human imperfection, at times serious disputes will occur.

  jesus also provides guidelines for handling them.

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  Keep in mind that elders can forgive you or punish you for your sins - as the 1988 Watchtower teaches!!!!!
  

  Knowing this is enough for me to question every single thing that they claim, say or teach. To me, expecting me to submit to people who have been arbitrarily appointed for me to disclose my personal matters, be judged by them and punished by them, that tells me how full of nonsense, how controlling that organization is. Of course, then, anything they teach will be to find ways to reinforce such control, hence, I don't believe anything they say since their real intent is clear.
  
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  Vow of Obedience and Poverty? WTF??

  by NikL in

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  listener on here started a cool thread about the april 2017 wt which can be found here.... https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4881380162928640/watchtower-april-2017-overview.

  it got me to look at it closer and in the opening study they use terminology i've never heard used before namely, "vow of obedience and poverty".... 19 currently, there are some 67,000 members of the worldwide order of special full-time servants of jehovah’s witnesses.

  some perform bethel service, others engage in construction or in circuit work, serve as field instructors or special pioneers or missionaries or as assembly hall or bible school facility servants.

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  Poverty and obedience are the cornerstones of the WT, that is, for all except the GB.
  
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  Is it just for social reasons you remain?

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  as someone who has tried to fade on various occasions, i always end up attending meetings!

  why is this the case you may ask?.

  if i was single, i would have kissed this high control american religion goodbye many years ago.

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  To me, it has now become nothing more than a social club. That's it!

  Is anyone else experiencing a similar situation, ie attending meetings primarily for social reasons?

  That's what the vast majority of people in any organized religion do. Religious organizations are social clubs. Do you think that people join because of what they teach? They don't know what they teach until they join, so it's not about their teachings.