Posts by scratchme1010

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The sly tactics the elders are using to malign my name!

by stuckinarut2 in

i have had it confirmed now, that since stopping attending over 18 months ago, the elders have set out to deliberately ruin my name and character .. they have been talking to every witness from the local area and saying things like "be careful of him, he has the ability to implant thoughts in your minds, and he only pretends to be kind and caring".

so, all i have to say to them is, "bravo!

if that is the method you want to employ, you have reached the very depths of bad behaviour!".

scratchme1010

Hello. And my two cents:

...he has the ability to implant thoughts in your minds, and he only pretends to be kind and caring...

You are dealing with a bunch of people who believe that you have such great superpowers of implanting thoughts in people's minds, this magical ability of making people change their minds and put them against the believes that they have to reinforce on a daily basis so easily that they have to be warned by one of their authority figures.

According to the elder, in a single conversation you can trick them into disregarding everything and anything they have done for them in that organization. And you can accomplish that (that's the kicker!) by being kind to them.

When you look at how ridiculously laughable that is, maybe the fact that they are slandering you in such lame way may make you feel above them enough not to care.

And of course, that's why fading is a process that requires planning. Fading is not just about stopping attending meetings, this is precisely the kind of crap JWs who want to fade have to prepare for. They are not going to be supportive, and they are not going to let people go by choice and because they want to. They are not going to make it easy or make people look good for leaving. No surprise there.

That said, it's still annoying that they do that (not to mention that it's slandering). It is the best display of how immoral they really are.

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Row DD...

by The Rebel in

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area lgt4, .

block:- the graham taylor stand lg.

row dd.

scratchme1010

And I am sure a minority of those beliefs are even more wired than my former beliefs

LOL! Interesting thoughts. Thanks for sharing.

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Lack Of Education Leads To Lost Dreams And Low Income For Many Jehovah's Witnesses

by freemindfade in

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http://www.npr.org/2017/02/19/510585965/poor-education-leads-to-lost-dreams-and-low-income-for-many-jehovahs-witnesses.

scratchme1010

Thanks, no apologies needed. That's the most heartbreaking thing to see and in some cases, experience. Entire generations (no pun intended) of unemployed, unmarketable, undereducated JWs unable to provide for their families thanks to the WT's views on higher education.

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I need some advice please

by JaMu in

i am a non-jw girl dating a jw man for almost 5 years now since end of high school.

most of the relationship has been long distance.

when we started dating, we wanted a serious long term relationship that would end in marriage one day.

scratchme1010

Hello. Here are a few thoughts:

In addition to all of this, he is a very stubborn person who always expects me to compromise and sacrifice things in the relationship, and always telling me that my life with him will be happier.

That alone, JW or not is reason to kick him to the curb. That is never ok in any relationship, and yes, that should be a deal breaker. Furthermore, can you imagine yourself spending the rest of your entire life living with a person like that? If yes, there's no issue then. If no, really think twice before taking your relationship further.

He is not a bad person at all, he just doesn't know how to express himself.

Sounds like you are already making excuses for him behaving in a way that doesn't make you comfortable and happy. How is that your problem? And is that supposed to make it better for you?

He's always there when i need to talk to someone and always makes me feel better and tries to make me happy...

That is and will always be for as long as you keep putting up with his stubbornness and putting up with doing things the way he says, and worse, he will always give you a stupid biblical reason to do so.

Like Dan Savage says: "DTMFA!".

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Very Good FYI! (It is about Nutrition)

by Iamallcool in

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http://www.nutritionfoodrecipes.com/2017/02/probably-didnt-know-never-eat-cucumbers-tomatoes-salad/.

scratchme1010

Thanks, but I find that information difficult to digest

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Last Week I Got A Call From An Elder I Haven't Seen In 20 Years...😳

by minimus in

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while i was at work i got a phone call from an elder i haven't seen in decades!

he started asking me questions about my family, my ex, and told me that he heard i "was no longer in the truth".

i got a little defensive and he quickly picked up on it and assured me his call had nothing to do with checking up on me regarding the religion.

scratchme1010

When I thought he was going to a place I didn't want him to go I said to him I'm not going to answer any of your questions because I've been on the other side before and I know what to expect and that's when he laughed and promised me assured me that was not his intention whatsoever-

Now I wonder if he himself was reaching out. Maybe he's the one who's curious about the other side. If he's been in the WT organization for that long, chances are he's seeing and feeling the changes that are not too kind for old timers who have sacrificed so much of their lives. Maybe he's feeling too lonely in his congregation. I know how sometimes "uncool" JWs get as shunned even thought they are JWs in good standing.

I'd be thrilled if there will be more conversations. I hope you left the door open for him.

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I feel like I'm losing my religion/faith

by christina1111 in

i'm a baptized jw...been baptized for 8 years...and throughout the years i've been baptized i see "hypocrisy" so to speak in the religion...when you're new and not baptized that's when the jws want to invite you to every gathering they have, they want to appear like they're your best friend...they want to help you out when needed and so forth...however, once you're baptized you go to the elders for help they don't help you....all they do is gather you around the office...have bibles in hand and so forth...they give you articles as well, instead of physically helping you out....but yet when you weren't baptized they would physically help you out and not throw scriptures and articles in your face.

also when you ask for help and so forth with the bros/sisters they want to throw the "each one must carry his/her own load" scripture at you.....but yet what happened to the scripture of taking care of widows and people who are orphans?.

it's not just one congregation...throughout the 8 years i've been baptized i've been through many kingdom halls...many towns...many states...when i was inactive for awhile i even pretended to not be baptized and just play dumb when the witnesses came to my door...they're much nicer to you when you're not baptized then when you are baptized...why is that?.

scratchme1010

I don't even feel like going out in the ministry....because why preach about something with a group of people that pretends to be your best friend when you're not a witness so you can join the group.. but yet when you become a witness they're no longer your best friend?

Hello. My two cents. As others have mentioned, follow your conscience. I'd suggest not to make drastic decisions. I know that it's overwhelming having all this awareness, but you have been there for many years now, so undoing that is a process, regardless of what you decided to do (I have known of others who feel that way but decided to stay JWs).

Many of us know exactly what you're going through. I hope you can find some comfort and a place to express your thoughts freely here in this forum.

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This one's for you, WTBTS Inc.

by DATA-DOG in

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z8luw9skquy.

dd.

scratchme1010

Nice song. Thanks for posting it.

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In Your Opinion Do Today's Elders Recognize That The Religion Is BS?

by minimus in

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i always wondered that while i was in especially when i was an elder.

i recognize that some people,elders included are brain-dead.

but do you think that the average older today knows it's all nonsense?

scratchme1010

I always wondered that while I was in especially when I was an elder. I recognize that some people,elders included are brain-dead. But do you think that the average older today knows it's all nonsense? I know there are some elders that post here regularly and I'm sure they know that it's all BS but what about the others?

I think they do, but many don't feel like they are in the position of saying so or acting accordingly. Nothing worse that endorsing a product you know doesn't work. It's a horrible position to be in.

Additionally, and this is pretty much the case in all kinds of organizations, not just religious, there are other reasons for them to stay. Knowing that the WT is full of --it doesn't mean that it doesn't fulfill other needs that they or their families have.

Many people stay in cults and other organizations for a number of reasons, even if they don't agree or believe in everything they say or do. Those reasons have nothing to do with whether the organization lies or tells the truth.

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Last Week I Got A Call From An Elder I Haven't Seen In 20 Years...😳

by minimus in

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friends

while i was at work i got a phone call from an elder i haven't seen in decades!

he started asking me questions about my family, my ex, and told me that he heard i "was no longer in the truth".

i got a little defensive and he quickly picked up on it and assured me his call had nothing to do with checking up on me regarding the religion.

scratchme1010

Interesting that some JW called you just for that. I mean that in a good way. Were you close as JWs? Was there anything that made him remember you? It's still odd that after decades out of the blue he just calls. Did you inquire about that?