Posts by scratchme1010

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If WT are cutting back on mags will they also cut back on Bethelites?

by truthseeker in

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i was thinking after hearing about the agm cutbacks to the mags and other website content surely they will end up dismissing more bethelites?

i would have thought in the old days, before the web, an artist or writer at bethel would have been a full time job making content for four 32 page mags a month.

now what are these guys going to do?.

scratchme1010

Maybe, if is suits their purpose, whichever it is.

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Spiritual paradise is a heart condition and not connected to and ORG, that's what they said?

by Crazyguy in

according to a post over at reddit this was said at the annual meeting.

did anyone else hear this?

this is huge and very telling if they did actually say this.

scratchme1010

I didn't but either way, to me the concept of spiritual paradise is the JW equivalent of a UFO coming to rescue us from Earth (that's from the Heaven's Gate cult).

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AGM - Are they now teaching predestination?

by Doubting Bro in

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another agm thought.

in tight pants tony's part, he mentioned several times that jehovah draws those he chooses and only those rightly disposed would come in.

and individuals that liked the literature but made no progress towards becoming jw were a "waste of time".. was he setting the stage for them introducing the thought of predestination?

scratchme1010

And next they will be talking about alien abductions. Personally I can't care less, maybe if I want to be amused at the crap they come up with and at the people who love following it.

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Who has a harder time leaving JW's - Born Ins or those who converted?

by HeyLittleGirl in

my freind (who is also out) and i were talking about this the other night.

i was a born-in, 3rd generation jw and she converted when she was in her late 20's.. when she left, she said that she knew the world wasn't as bad as she was told as a jw, so she knew she would be fine.

also, she still had lots of "worldly" family who welcomed her back with open arms.. it was harder for me - i had nobody in the "world", no family or freinds.

scratchme1010

I don;t think that that's the right approach to find out who has the harder time. I am born in, but in any way can I compare my process of leaving to those of other better families with better support.

People's lives are different. People's positions in the congregation are different (i.e., even though we were raise the exact same way as JWs, the story of my heterosexual brother is quite different from mine and from my sister as a female; the three of those types of people are treated quite differently in the congregation).

Also, people who have experienced life outside join the JWs for different reasons. You cannot compare a person who join to escape from abusing drugs and alcohol with a person who joins simply because they want to believe in something.

Same thing for the process of leaving. I for once embraced my leaving and saw walking away from the Jehovah crap as the best thing that ever happened to me. Others leave full of fear of the uncertainty, sad and depressed from disappointing loved ones. Some who have something to go back to may have good things and people to return after leaving the JWs, others don't because the join looking for a better structure in their lives.

It really is different from person to person.

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Were You Ever SHOCKED That Someone Got Appointed As An Elder?

by minimus in

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i remember some men getting appointed and wondering what the hell were they thinking???.

likewise when i came to someone being appointed a presiding overeer or whatever they are called now!

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scratchme1010

Not really. By the time I was paying attention I was quite aware of the behind the scenes behavior of may of the elders.

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The cut back

by Akid48 in

does the cut back for 6 magazines for the year show how there losing money or just cutting back.i feel going to begging for peoples money than just chargeing money for a magazine was kinda killing money.but they do get a lot of property and they can just sell that making money.. it seems to early for me to make a full opinion on the topic i wanted to know what others think about this..

scratchme1010

It seems to early for me to make a full opinion on the topic i wanted to know what others think about this.

I kind of feel the same way, but other signs seem to be pointing to one of (what I believe are) two tings:

They are crumbling
They are shifting focus, cleaning house and liquidating for a better investment

If you ask me, I think time will tell.

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Aylmer, QC, Assembly hall for sale?

by StephaneLaliberte in

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i heard rumors that the jws are seeking to sell that assembly hall, is this possible?

anyone has wind of it?

i heard this once from someone a few month back and now, again, from mike and kim.

scratchme1010

I don't have any information, but I don't see why that could not be a possibility.

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How/when did you become a jehovas witness?

by Lewis1998 in

so i've been a protestant for most of my life, it's how i was raised, but recently i started questioning my faith more and more and now i feel like my beliefs resemble that of a jehovas witness rather than a protestant.

i don't know any jehovas witnesses, so i was just wondering how a lot of you found the religion and adapted to it?.

scratchme1010

I don't know any jehovas witnesses, so I was just wondering how a lot of you found the religion and adapted to it?

I didn't adopt it. That's my mother's religion when I was born. If you look at our experiences here, you will see that there are very different ways and things that made people interested in becoming a JW.

Since that religion was imposed on me, and since I was never cut to be one, throughout my entire life as a JW there were lots of conflicts between that organization, my family and me.

Personally that organization doesn't do it for me, but if you relate to their teachings, give it a try. It may or may not be for you.

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