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  Police Welfare Check

  by JRK in

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  i awoke in the middle of the night to banging on my door.

  i went to the door half asleep and asked who was there.

  i heard “police.” my dog was going crazy, so i slipped outside to talk to them.

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  The weird thing is that all of my friends know that I am not suicidal, and would have called me first before calling the police.
  

  So it wasn't a friend, and it may have not been done in good intention.
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  Pull the Plug Already...

  by megaboy in

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  2. scandals

  after reading and seeing so many detailings of the dealings with people in this religion, i have to wonder how to get people who are just extremely asleep.

  reasoning doesn't seem like it works, there needs to be some kind of plug pull event, like the leaders doing something so uterly stupid that it causes the immediate downfall of the entire religion.

  but because i am naturally curious i want to know from people who have more experience with jw structure why they seem to have a resistance to an event like this?

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  But because I am naturally curious I want to know from people who have more experience with JW structure why they seem to have a resistance to an event like this?
  

  My two cents. Many people concentrate in trying to reason and showing facts about doctrine, practices, legal lawsuits, things that they said before that now changed, etc, etc, etc. However, many people also fail to look at the most important part of why they don't react the way normal people should. They are attacking the effect, not the cause.

  If you look at the reasons why people are there, they may have nothing to do with doctrine, practices, legal practices, nor things that they claim. It is about what that organization made them feel. The doctrine, teachings and bullshit came after they were made feel something they like and were (and still are) holding on.

  Look at why people joined. Look at why people stay, and also look at us and ask why we left. Aside from people who have in fact become disappointed with the discrepancies in their teachings, there are others who have left for other reasons, such as:

  • boredom (the excitement about "the truth" is over)
  • being mistreated or betrayed
  • being shunned in spite of their best efforts to do the right thing
  • their system doesn't work (can't find suitable employment and Jehovah isn't providing as promised)
  • they still don't feel good about themselves (remember, some people join religions to stay out of trouble, running from abusive situations, or to stay sober or abstinent from drugs)

  There are many reasons why people join, stay and leave. That's what you need to find and address if you want to make them pay attention.
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  The sell-off of kingdom halls is easily explained in this video!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if anyone finds it odd that so many kingdom halls have been sold off, and amalgamations are taking place, this great video will explain it simply:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohiju8ak1py&index=8&list=plkzeqk2ufxrntxsbgdoy_uxxa3grdhvsg.

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  I think it was posted before, but enjoyable nonetheless.
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  Did You Know “Weird JWs” When You Were In The Organization?

  by minimus in

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  it could be argued that all jws are weird.

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  i’m referring to really weird odd witnesses.. most of the oddballs that i remember were elders..

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  It could be argued that all JWs are weird.

  I’m referring to really weird odd Witnesses.

  Most of the oddballs that I remember were elders.

  OMG, in what category! Let's see:

  • This older woman who was addicted to attention seeking at any cost. She lived about a block from my family, so once my mother was in the shower and she entered the bathroom and started using the toilet loud as she was describing what she was doing and coming out. In the KH she was always singing louder than others, and always spoke and laugh extremely loudly. She also liked to talk about some procedure that was made to her anally because she was a virgin and couldn't get done vaginally.
  • Mr. verbal diarrhea, an elder that was dumber than a potato chip. Was named elder because of his personality. He would just start babbling in his talks about nonsense, and would get lost. And when he had the last talk, forget it, we were closing the meetings about half an hour after it was supposed to. His wife had some kind of conflict or complex. Couldn't figure out what was wrong with her, but she was very antisocial.
  • Pervert number 1 - This guy loved to comment and give very specific examples only and exclusively when the topic was related to sex or sexual practices. He never talked about anything ever, not once, if it wasn't about something sexual. He would be very graphic in describing "wordly" sexual practices.
  • Pervert number 2 - This is more common, than what it should be. That guy was always trying to molest any female, including his own daughters. Every time that he was about to get caught, he would move to another congregation, and then later would return. He was finally disfellowshipped for having sex with a sister widow who was 80 years old. She got disfellowshipped too. Last time I heard, the guy is now in his 70s and married a 15 year old.
  • The kid who claimed that Jehovah talks to him every night. This young man, in his late teens (back then) was always telling everyone who can listen that Jehovah appeared to him and talked to him. No one paid attention to him that I knew of.
  • The closeted homosexual who wanted his mother dead. This guy was horrible! He was convinced that because his mother did not want to be a JW and he wanted to save her, that it was better if she died. He also showed signs of all kinds of neurotic guilt (like feeling that he needed to explain things to people who didn't even know what he was talking about). After I left, I once saw him in some park, and he wasn't exactly trying to save anyone (if you know what I mean).
  • Narcissistic personality disorder 1 - This guy said that he is Jehovah. He was always "leading" by convincing people that his word, his criteria and his saying were always final because he said so, under the vice of the Jehovah crap. He would humiliate and shame anyone who ever contradicted him. The saddest part of it all was hearing so many sisters wanting to date him.

  I'm sure that there are more, but those are the ones that I remember at the moment.
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  Bitter sweet moment

  by Jayk in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  last night i had a sit down with a family member and some older friends who went to my hall.

  didn't realise my family member who is active has been feeling alot of the same emotions i have.

  my family member who is in high standing said he has alway been afraid to go to the elders because he has always felt they weren't ever understanding from his experience.

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  "we weren't raised for success"
  

  Indeed. Life is not over, though. There are always ways to start over and build the life we want. It's sad if you think about the wasted time and energy in total bullshit, but not so sad if you look forward.
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  Watchtower Philosophy Debates

  by Wild_Thing in

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  i was wondering how many of you still enjoy (or maybe you just feel the need) to discuss and debate jw doctrine and scripture.

  i find myself scrolling right past those topics i see online.

  i could care less.

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  I feel like that is a debate no one is going to win, and I have often wondered if the ones who want to argue the points are people who have found another religion that "really is the right one this time", or maybe they are still trying to prove to themselves it is the Truth™. I really don't know.
  

  The point that you make is very interesting. The way I see it is that different people are at different stages of their lives, different stages of their sorting their own spiritual path, and to me that means that those debates matter to some degree.

  I find id difficult to balance allowing people their own space to develop their own believes and putting up with a lot of nonsense. Where I find the most problems is that some people are still in JW mode, meaning that they go with the intent to convince others, not necessarily to listen what others have to say.

  Also, I find it ok moving on from the debate and let others carry on. Just my thoughts.
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  No more talk about the Org. regarding Sexual abuse on this site ....what happened ???

  by tor1500 in

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  2. friends

  the other day on this site, a lot of topics about the org.

  and sexual abuse...now when i come on this site...crickets... what happened ?

  it seems everyone is being exposed except the org...oh yes it's mentioned here and there but then it fades away...many celebrities are being exposed....& gov't officials and even our president, but not the org...ummmm.... thoughts ?.

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  Thoughts ?
  

  My thoughts are that the topic has been covered widely. However, I'd like to know if there's anything to say about the victims. The coverage over the perpetrators has been quite extensive, very little is said about the victims.
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  Read this Pretty Good Advice!

  by Iamallcool in

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  It is personally responsible to walk away from other people's made up bullshit. I don't join other people's miserable drama. Some people like sucking the life out of others by always coming up with some kind of bullshit, and love keeping it going. And some people attack you when you refuse to be part of their dysfunctional shit.

  So yes, that should be a mural next to every KH.
  

  Walking away from crappy situations created by ill-intended crappy people who get off by doing that shit is a responsible thing to do.
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  Best Bethel stories

  by optimisticskeptic in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i temped at bethel 3 times for varying lengths of time and found working there to not always be the rosy picture some would paint.

  not a surprise really, but i think one of the things that surprised me the most was how a lot of the permanent bethelites (especially older ones) were so impersonal to temps.

  they acted like you weren't worth investing their time in since you weren't permanent.

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  They acted like you weren't worth investing their time in since you weren't permanent.
  

  According to a book I read, spiritually abusive people (or rather, abusive people who use religion or spirituality to abuse others) have this grandiosity and self-righteousness attitude. Some are very narcissistic. That attitude doesn't surprise me.
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  Which Things Did Your Overzealous Parents Ban?

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. experiences

  we all know the gb like to impose rules upon the rules... but did anyone else out there have parents that implemented rules upon those rules?

  mine did.

  my mum tended to copy whatever the elders wives were doing and took it to the extreme.

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  ...did anyone else out there have parents that implemented rules upon those rules?

  Yes, the list of things that were banned in my family is too long. I can actually provide the stupidest things that my weirdo born-again father banned.

  • Vitamins - He said that Jehovah will keep us healthy and the new order is around the corner anyway
  • Exercise - He said that house to house preaching is plenty of exercise
  • Bicycles, skates and skateboards - No reason given
  • Attending congregation social gatherings - This was more over his political fight with the other moron, equally abusive elders in that congregation who were doing the same shit to their children.

  My mother forbid pretty much everything she didn't like hearing about. She used the Jehovah crap as an excuse to be a controlling bitch.