Jehovahs Witnesses – Does the Sect’s name really mean for what it is ?
No, they are full of --it.
the term jehovah’s witnesses sounded weird to me even when i was in that cult.
why does god need witnesses to prove his existence?
there is no need for anyone to create a movement called “suns witnesses” or “moons witnesses” – in order to prove its existence and glorify it, because the sun and moon are evident to every species on earth.
Jehovahs Witnesses – Does the Sect’s name really mean for what it is ?
No, they are full of --it.
with hundreds, if not thousands, of letters being sent in to the society asking for answers re their child abuse policies and poorly supported doctrines, what does the watchtower decide is the most important question from readers to answer this month?
why is paul always depicted as bald apparently!.
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You don't expect them to actually address and (horrors!) admit to allowing child abuse in their congregation, right?
we want people to learn ttatt.
we have numerous resources online to draw jws in so that they will wake up.
however, i've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop.
We want people to learn TTATT.
This is a very, very bad assumption. I cannot care less about any JW, including my own family, learning TTATT. Some of us, as I have said many times, are quite done with trying to save people from something, and also wanting to leave the WT and all the Jehovah crap as far from our lives as possible. Aside from this forum, I don't even think about anything JW nor about anything related to my JW past. And I like it that way.
I do agree that some people are not exactly sensitive or tactful when dealing with JWs. However, people are going to do what they are set to do. Also, some ex-JWs are still under several degrees of influence from the WT. Some still want to argue and discuss doctrine. My position on that is that they themselves are still in the process of sorting their own path. Some people love to show people that they are wrong, and some, very well intended, may not have the life skills necessary to deal with brainwashed people.
A good example is this very forum. A lot of people go on and on and on about how much they talk and research and discuss the WT teachings with the JWs, and neglect to see, understand or accept that the whole thing is more than just what they have in their printed material.
Also, there are some people who have been abused, deceived, mistreated and treated unfairly by them, and they are perfectly entitled to be angry and express such anger.
I am nobody to tell people how to behave (other than my own immediate family, and that's done in a loving way). I disagree with the way some people act and do things, but I am no one to tell them that the way they are dealing with things should change. For example, I didn't like the idea of the protest, but I didn't oppose nor did I criticize whoever decided to organize and carry on with it.
Your own recommendations still deny important aspects of where JWs are. Telling them things is NOT going to work since REASONING, learning, nor logic are what keeps them JWs.
As I always opine and recommend when asked, look for the real reasons why JWs joined and stayed JWs. You will find that many times it has absolutely nothing with the WT teachings.
this is how the conversation went.
decide for your selves.. dad : joe if ever i need an operation i've told them i don't want blood.
not a drop.. joe : well what about blood fractions.
Shaking my head.
here we go again another will known public figure being abusive towards women.
as heart breaking it is i am glad it is coming out.
it takes a brave person to bring these things out.. could this be the catalyst that may expose the wt.
People didn't care about my comment in my previous post, but I will say it again, anyway. I miss the 90s when the Macarena was the thing of the moment.
And I'm glad to alive and CELEBRATING!
25! Just like me! Never mind I read it wrong, I'm 52.
Happy birthday, and may you celebrate every single one of the many more you will have.
some former jw protesters are wasting their time and energy "exposing" or criticizing the watchtowers 2 witness rule here's why:.
lets suppose the governing body changes this and expells anyone accused of child molestation even if accused by one person.
would that solve the problem?
Are you for real, krismalone? You think that what matters here is being reinstated, the congregation, what they tell their victims and their families to do?
Those people are violating the law. They deserve to be jailed. They are violating children and getting away from it. Who gives a fuck about what their rules and protocols are.
i awoke in the middle of the night to banging on my door.
i went to the door half asleep and asked who was there.
i heard “police.” my dog was going crazy, so i slipped outside to talk to them.
The weird thing is that all of my friends know that I am not suicidal, and would have called me first before calling the police.
So it wasn't a friend, and it may have not been done in good intention.
after reading and seeing so many detailings of the dealings with people in this religion, i have to wonder how to get people who are just extremely asleep.
reasoning doesn't seem like it works, there needs to be some kind of plug pull event, like the leaders doing something so uterly stupid that it causes the immediate downfall of the entire religion.
but because i am naturally curious i want to know from people who have more experience with jw structure why they seem to have a resistance to an event like this?
But because I am naturally curious I want to know from people who have more experience with JW structure why they seem to have a resistance to an event like this?
My two cents. Many people concentrate in trying to reason and showing facts about doctrine, practices, legal lawsuits, things that they said before that now changed, etc, etc, etc. However, many people also fail to look at the most important part of why they don't react the way normal people should. They are attacking the effect, not the cause.
If you look at the reasons why people are there, they may have nothing to do with doctrine, practices, legal practices, nor things that they claim. It is about what that organization made them feel. The doctrine, teachings and bullshit came after they were made feel something they like and were (and still are) holding on.
Look at why people joined. Look at why people stay, and also look at us and ask why we left. Aside from people who have in fact become disappointed with the discrepancies in their teachings, there are others who have left for other reasons, such as:
There are many reasons why people join, stay and leave. That's what you need to find and address if you want to make them pay attention.
if anyone finds it odd that so many kingdom halls have been sold off, and amalgamations are taking place, this great video will explain it simply:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohiju8ak1py&index=8&list=plkzeqk2ufxrntxsbgdoy_uxxa3grdhvsg.
I think it was posted before, but enjoyable nonetheless.