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  Does "Hanlon's Razor" apply to the Governing Body?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. beliefs

  i recently learned of the term "hanlon's razor".. wikipedia defines it as: .

  hanlon's razor is an aphorism expressed in various ways including "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

  " it recommends a way of eliminating unlikely explanations for a phenomenon (a philosophical razor).. so could it be said that this applies to the gb / society ?.

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  I checked the Wikipedia and what it has now for definition is a picture of Donald Trump.
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  Counting time calling on inactive ones?

  by stillin in

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  2. beliefs

  had a couple of witnesses stop by yesterday to say the usual "we miss you, missed you at the meeting, just checking in on you, etc.

  " i've always liked this guy so we spoke for a few minutes.

  my wife said that they could count their time since i am inactive.

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  And here I thought that they might care a little about me dying soon at Armageddon....
  

  That organization has no interest in their people. Remember they let people die over their BS around the use of blood.
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  I hope this is just a joke, because when reading this board, I thought this was'nt suppose to happen

  by Truth and Justice in

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  hi to all the board, .

  i am confused about something that i read on this board.

  it was the subject about the building and development of new kingdom halls.

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  Why this bothers me: I thought that the Society was not going to get involved in any more building projects and put a halt to all other projects as well.
  

  I'm confused, if you are not part of that organization for decades, why do you care about any of what they do or don't do? Not sure why any of that should matter.
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  Difficulty fading out

  by Emily1987 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is my first post on here so i apologize that it is like an essay!.

  my husband and i are currently 'fading out' of the truth.

  we stopped preaching in may 2016 and limited meeting attendance in january 2017 and stopped completely in june 2017. my main reason for this was my whole life i have been doing things to please others, even getting baptized to please my mum.

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  ...one of my best friends, who is a witness, spoke to me this week and basically said she knows what we have been up to and her 'conscience' has made her go to the elders. Not only am I distraught that someone I used to consider as my best friend could do this, I am confused as to why!!
  

  Have you not been a JW? What surprises me is your reaction. Do you expect that JWs are going to be mindful, respectful and/or supportive of you? What do you think fading is about? Do you think that by fading things are going to be peaceful and they are going to leave you alone? Fading is not just stopping to attend meetings and preaching, fading is preparing yourself for what comes next when it comes to your relationship with them.

  They are a cult, they are not nice people, and they are not just going to let you be and live. Please don't tell me that you didn't know that.

  ...has anyone else had hassle from witnesses and elders when trying to fade? Is it going to be this hard forever, constantly checking over our shoulder that a witness isn't watching us. Checking out the window when the doorbell rings in case it's an elder! I feel like I am still controlled by the religion even though I no longer practice it!
  

  Yes, if you let them. I think the issue here is your people pleasing, and maybe also difficulty setting boundaries with people. The moment that you tell them to fuck off, they will.

  Keep this in mind:

  1. They are not nice people and they are not going to leave you alone by themselves. You have to make that happen for you and your family.
  2. They have no saying and no authority in your lives, unless you allow them to
  3. You don't have to be nice to them all the time, you don't need to please them. It's ok to tell them to fuck off.
  4. They are never going to treat you nicely, even if you return to the KH.
  5. It is your responsibility to set boundaries and tell them to mind their own fucking business.
  6. Fading is about creating support outside the congregation, so you don't have to deal with those idiots again.

  I hope that helps.
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  If we just suddenly start talking to DFed people again and use the Canada court video as our argument, what would happen?

  by Isambard Crater in

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  2. scandals

  the jw lawyer clearly stated that disfellowshipping only applies to spiritual association, but everyday family contact is ok..

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  I saw the video, and the commentary of that person towards the former JW is rather ignorant and as judgmental as the WT is. Who is she to judge?

  The whole thing is fucked up from every angle.
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  This sums Wt up to a "T"

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just saw this on you tube.

  although he is talking about religion generally and from a christian perspective.

  it very much sums up the transition wt is going through.. https://youtu.be/mkejzeh5ee8.

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  There are many elements in the video that I certainly agree with, but I think that there are certain things that go deeper than that. The concept of religious organizations being social clubs is not new.

  Also, some churches are already making modifications, some attempted to become "cool churches" offering rock concerts and other events to appeal to people.

  Another challenge that they face is that some of their attempts at becoming nonprofit organizations with programs to help the community is that their believes and practices discriminate against many of the communities that they are supposed to serve. I cannot imagine a church having a needle exchange program, or a HIV education program for transgender prostitutes, or services for single parents, or (horrors!) a women's health clinic that provides the means for abortions.

  Because of their believes and practices, they cannot obtain a lot of funding from government programs.
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  What's changed since I left in 2006?

  by Jehovah lol in

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  2. beliefs

  i think i made a thread like this a couple of years ago but i can't remember what was said and i'd rather have a new discussion anyway.. what's different in the wts since i left it behind in 2006?.

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  I mainly care because I still have family stuck inside, but I don't want to ask them about it because they might mistake it for genuine interest.
  

  That part, regarding relationships with people who left, since 2006, has changed back and forth between different degrees of how much they can be in your life. I know that because of the phone calls that came from my JW family telling me that now they can talk, so they called me to ask me for money.
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  More significant than Paul's hair

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  far more important than worrying about whether paul's head was hairy or if he was an egg-shell blond, is to be concerned about what went on inside that skull between his ears.. paul was never a christian.

  he was a jew before he became aware of jesus the anointed (christ) and he remained a jew after his confrontation.

  throughout his life paul was a jew living in a gentile world.

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  Paul was never a Christian.
  

  He was never heterosexual either.
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  what is the sales technique here?

  by Kevin McFree in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jw's will never knock on your door and say, "hi, we are here to convert you".

  speaking to a reporter recently a jw media rep at hq said " our main purpose going door to door is not to convert but to share bible truths with people".

  does anyone know the sales techniques involved here?

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  does anyone know the sales techniques involved here?
  

  Misleading advertising. Deceptive sales practices. In other words, lying to their bones.

  Sad thing is that they actually believe that nonsense.
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  I will put together a collage of articles and scriptures that contradict shunning.

  by poopie in

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  2. friends

  i will use the teachings of watchtower to refute there own shunning rules.

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  Great project you have ahead.