after the last topic getting me mad, does anyone have a positive experience of dealing with an elder or a particular favourite elder that was a top bloke?.
After the last topic getting me mad, does anyone have a positive experience of dealing with an elder or a particular favourite elder that was a top bloke?
No. The elders I knew were a bunch of dumb asses, abusive, disrespectful, narcissistic and/or homosexual closet cases. Sorry I can't help you feel positive.
here i am 63 years old, out of the cult going on 8 years, went through a year of therapy back in 2007, been working very hard to become the person i have always wanted to be.
but what happen to me a few days ago just blew me out of the water for the past two days.
i am now finally coming to grips with my emotions and understanding what caused me such distress.. here's what happen.
Thank you so much for sharing. Please remember that you are doing your best, and no matter what, there will be some people who will feel hurt regardless of your best efforts. It's not always something that you can do better about. Please keep that in mind. I say that because I find it unreasonable that the woman in your story just couldn't accept your apology, didn't let it go, and now is upset with the entire congregation for not taking her side. That is extremely unreasonable of her, regardless of how "bad" you think you said or did whatever was that she was complaining about.
in this episode we explore mike’s story of being shunned at an early age while still living at home, and how even today although he isn’t officially “shunned” he’s still treated that way as an inactive jehovah’s witness.
not all who are “shunned” are disfellowshipped or disassociated from the organization.
shunning is in the dna of jehovah’s witnesses, something that really marks them as a high control religion, also known as a cult.. .
Thanks!
it is not “preach the good news” nor is it “believe in jesus and get saved” neither is it “believe in the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses and get saved” although in practice they do teach this.
no, everything they claim depends on a belief in another doctrine which logic decrees cannot be found in the bible.
the leadership of jehovah’s witnesses put absolute faith in a protestant doctrine which is given a latin name, sola scriptura, meaning “by scripture alone”.. good evidence of the governing body believing in the primacy of this doctrine was when being questioned by the australian royal commission, they resorted to the ‘authority’ of scripture to defend their stance on having “two witnesses” when they are investigating child abuse cases.throughout the hearing they paraded their naive trust in the bible as the highest possible authority proudly ignoring the fact that most people regard it as having been superseded by modern scientific evaluations of what is true.. .
Have you ever thought what the primary teaching of Jehovah’s Witnesses is?
Yes, forget about who you are, don't pay attention to anything and anyone else but what they tell you, including everything around your most important aspects of your life, your family, your health, your career, your possessions, your work, your community, your education, your feelings, your body, your choices of clothing, your opinions, your instincts and your own thoughts. None of that matters, only what/how/when/how much they tell you. But you're free from the world and sin.
i'm sure many of you are aware of the jwtalk site, a message board which has yet to succumb to apostasy (give it time).. some of the forums there are visible to the public, and i've seen some crazy stuff.
here is a sampling:.
"satan is really trying his best to make things worst for the witnesses, knowing the 6,000 years is almost up, from eve's creation!".
Jehoval lol, thank you for posting. The information you are sharing is interesting. it reaffirms their craziness, I mean, cognitive dissonance.
hopefully more are on the same path.
here is the story..... this person i know was the model jw, and them and their spouse could have really moved up.
they knew i was gone and awhile ago started asking me questions.
The ones that if you are not part of this group, then you will die because this group is God's chosen and it should be obvious to the world they are the only true followers. So what happens on this historic day?!?! 75% of the meeting, 45 minutes, are featuring Tony ranting about tight pants and yoga pants.
That certainly resonates with me and many others. I remember similar stories of that kind of waking up, that is, how they claim that their message is so important, and how crucial their work is, and then what they talk about is pure crap, either hateful things, menial, stupid things, or something that is certainly not critical (like yoga and tight pants). And people are left thinking "Is that what we should be concentrating on right now? Is that really what humanity needs to hear to be saved?"
I never got to know who that Tony is, but he's doing a great job by showing how archaic, closed minded, and downright stupid they can get.
yesterday, they showed the story “from enemies to friends” at the kingdom hall.
my mother in law told me about it as she was touched by the story.
so then, later in the evening, i searched for the video and found it in the january 1st 2017 broadcast.
I've heard so many versions of that kind of story. Could that happen, I think so. Has that happened as many times as people claim? I don't think so. Has that happened the way it's told by the WT? Fuck no.
i was just thinking about how the gb / society hates it when people like us dare to speak up or mention anything negative about the society.. they try and demean us, or colour witnesses view of anyone who leaves - especially if we speak up!
we know the sort of rhetoric they have been spewing forth over the last few years.. but the gb needs to face the fact that we speak out because we have been trained to do so by them!
they have used scriptural passages to encourage us repeatedly to "preach with boldness"(acts 4:29-31 eph 6:19).
But the GB needs to face the fact that we speak out BECAUSE we have been TRAINED to do so by them!
I guess that is one reason. Personally, I don't think that I am a robot, I am human, which means that like every other people in the planet i have my own thoughts and reactions to TTATT.
I think it's just human and natural to speak about all the bullshit people put up with, some for decades, some since they were born. It's just the logical, expected, natural thing to do. It's called coping. Can't see anything out of the ordinary in it.
i ask this because from what i read on this board lately is that they jw`s seem to be very reluctant to engage in conversation with anybody nowadays and are only interested in placing literature at carts.. and if anyone brings up questions in their d2d work that challenge them ( like the arc ) they will promptly excuse themselves and move on.
also didn`t jesus say "this good news of the kingdom would be preached in all the inhabited earth " for a witness ?.
when was the last time you heard a jw speak about "the good news of the kingdom" ?
Is the name Jehovah`s Witnesses a misnomer ?
Yes.
midway through the "congregation bible study" at this week's midweek meeting, a paragraph of the "god's kingdom rules" book stated as supposed evidence that "god's kingdom rules":.
"spiritual provisions flow to us like an ever-broadening and ever-deepening river.
our bible-based publications - as well as recordings and videos, our meetings and conventions, and the material published on our web site - together amount to an ongoing flood tide of spiritual sustenance... are you not thrilled to see the fulfillment of jehovah’s promises of abundance in your daily life?".
Are you not thrilled to see the fulfillment of Jehovah’s promises of ABUNDANCE in your daily life?
Excuse me, I need to vomit.
