i had this friend at school who is bisexual and she asked me to date twice both times i said no im not interested in girls that way but then she told everyone that we were dating and now im being called gay and lesbian.
one boy in my class said to me that im going against jws and then started calling me gay and other names.
then another girl in my class said theres nothing wrong with being gay and im being brainwashed by the jws..
I had this friend at school who is bisexual and she asked me to date twice both times i said no im not interested in girls that way but then she told everyone that we were dating and now im being called gay and lesbian. One boy in my class said to me that im going against jws and then started calling me gay and other names. Then another girl in my class said theres nothing wrong with being gay and im being brainwashed by the jws.
Tell them all to shut up and fuck off.
hello all, many years i have been lurking on this site.
gradually i’ve learned the real truth, gone from serving as a servant and at bethel to inactive for almost a year, barely ever wasting time going to meetings.
my family is large and very active and so is my wife’s so leaving altogether is difficult.. though it seems now that everything is about to change.
Thank you all for your many posts over the years that myself and other have used to free ourselves and know we are not alone. I hope to post more in the future and get to know some who have gone through this struggle and come out the other side.
Welcome. Seems like it's been quite a journey for you. I hope you see all this as a new beginning. Some endings, especially those of a marriage, may be difficult and painful. However, new doors always open.
Thank you for your post. If you have been lurking around, you can get a feel of how diverse we are in thought, stages of attachment/detachment from the WT, and in the place that we are in our lives.
Once again, thank you for posting.
Let us know the results!
so i woke up this morning with nothing planned for the day.
i rolled out of bed around 9am and went to local mcky ds to get some breakfast, and lord and behold there was a group of jdubs sitting around eating and sipping on coffee, probable counting time.
anyway, i glanced over and recognized all of them and they glanced back at me.
Is there anyone else that gets annoyed by people who act self righteous even though they really shouldn’t?
The way left, the way I am, and the results of their lame attempts at making me feel uncomfortable, that didn't go too well fro them, nope. By now those shits I walked away from know better than messing with me. They crossed the street when they saw me.
it`s christmas eve here in australia today and i wish all of you a very merry xmas simply because i can without being zapped , or hauled into a jc committee.. it doesn`t matter whether you are religious or not , i`m not now , however i can appreciate and respect those who do.. so whatever your views on the matter have a great day and enjoy the holidays in whatever grabs your fancy.. and if jw`s do come knocking on your door as they do this festive season wish them a merry xmas and anti-witness to them ..
Best wishes to all.
counties once at war with one another can forgive and move on.
even horrible murderers who killed the family members of someone can be forgiven for the act that they did.. but god, no no no.
no such thing can happen.
That's one of things that took me some time to understand, how can intelligent normal people in their right mind would be willing to buy such bullshit.
was there one certain event or was it more a cumulative thing?.
Was there one certain event or was it more a cumulative thing?
There was one specific event that precipitated my decision to leave, but the decision to leave itself was not made abruptly. There are two things, my decision to leave, and what made me start acting on my decision when I did.
My decision came about by a combination of my history in that organization. The way I was treated there was not in a very nice, loving way. The other factor was my depression. I decided to take the Jehovah crap seriously when I was an adolescent, just to find myself entering adulthood with the most severe depression I've ever experienced. At best, what I got was accusations that my depression were caused by my conscience, meaning that I was supposed to confess to something, so they can discipline me, reprove me, etc. That was the only suggestion they bother to give me regarding it.
I went to see a therapist, and that did wonders for me. After that, I just started looking at the entire dynamic in the congregation from different point of view. I started observing and noticing that not only was I the only person in need of outside professional mental health help, but that the congregation was full of people with all kinds of issues, some people with severe mental illness. I opened my eyes and realized that the leadership in the WT is made up of people who are incapable of providing appropriate guidance and recommendations to people, but at the same time they are the ones that I was supposed to trust with my most important life decisions.
I sat with those thoughts and started entertaining the idea of leaving that organization as I knew that it was all bullshit. That started making me look at all the crap I was told in terms of doctrine differently too, not that I cared much for a lot of it, anyway.
Though at a conscious level I knew I was out, what made it a process is that I was born-in, so leaving meant walking away from my entire life up until that point, not something that is to be taken lightly. I knew I couldn't just leave, and I knew that I needed to start building the foundation for my life out.
Two things happened: 1- I met who became my first relationship, a nice gentleman who happened to have a mother who was taking bible studies, and he was very curious about the Jehovah crap, trying to know what was his mother getting into. He was very supportive in my process of leaving. 2 - The trigger came from some pathetic bitch of a sister who started giving me shit for showing up to the KH without properly shaving. The way she talked to me was so verbally abusive, so nasty, ad in front of all the people present. I just looked at her, aside from being upset, I also saw something different. As I saw her in that "mode", I noticed something odd. Now I understand a little more about brainwashed people and when people are in sad, bad circumstances. I just knew at that moment that the message from the people who are supposed to love and care about me was never going to be positive or loving.
The rest is history.
hi everyone.
what does anyone think of the crisis of conscience book?
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Hi everyone. What does anyone think of the crisis of conscience book?
Love the book, Very insightful. I actually met him in person once when he was in Puerto Rico. he always stroke me as a very personable person.
He sounds very accurate in what he describes about the inner circles where most JWs don't get access to.
What I like the most about the book is the tone he uses. He doesn't sound spiteful, he's matter-of-fact, and I din't get that "expose" quality that you get from other books that are of similar purposes.
how many months consecutively does a jw have to miss turning in time to be inactive?.
How many months consecutively does a jw have to miss turning in time to be inactive?
Never heard of a specific rule, but I've been out for a long time and never followed up on anything that they did after I left.
Way back when, if I remember correctly, a person was considered inactive as soon as the person didn't report any hours.
my wife has held onto them like they were family heirlooms.
we are cleaning and clearing out accumulated stuff and i pointed out that there is the cd-rom library now and that the society has made revisions and really doesn't want us to be reading the old stuff.
she said that even though there have been changes to the teachings, the wrong understanding served its' purpose at the time.
nyhow, disposing of books that we will never read felt great! And she was in agreement!
Sounds very liberating. Love that it was the two of you in agreement. That's awesome.
