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  Singing todays WT

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the jist was that we all should sing.

  then the first 6 or 8 paragraphs describe how early bible accounts have trained and set aside musicians to do the singing while everyone else listened.. the songs they have put out have no soul, rhythm, or soothing melodies as a whole.

  the old hymns are some real music, even if you don't agree with the "teachings".. there is no admission of poetry using archaic language at times for affect or to add to the rhyme, they have to have everything agree with the grey bible.. anyone speak foreign languages?

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  The old hymns are some real music, even if you don't agree with the "teachings".
  

  The old hymns were plagiarized from other people's musical work.
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  Is Happiness Without Religion Possible?

  by Brian J in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to the 11/2017 study watchtower.......apparently not.

  is it really true that one can be happy without religion?

  certainly an individual can be happy without false religion, but a person cannot be truly happy unless he has a relationship with jehovah, who is described as “the happy god.” (1 tim.

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  Is Happiness Without Religion Possible?
  

  Yes.

  According to the 11/2017 Study Watchtower.......apparently not.
  

  The WT is no different than most-to-all religions in that respect.
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  Nice quote

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with christmas gorby had a good talk with his jw father about “time tends to fly” and how everything changes.. he concluded: “if our grandparents would visit the kingdom hall now, they would headshaking left the building and never returned.”.

  it says something, does it?.

  g..

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  Makes me feel sorry for my father, who is still alive and experiencing all that. Just sad.
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  Who Do JWs Fear The Most? Top Five

  by Fred Franztone in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's a fear-based religion, at its core.

  jws fear many things, but what or who do they fear the most?

  let's find out.... 5) satan.

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  I'd say:

  1. Their own beings (their own thoughts, their intuition, having their own values and morals)
  2. People who chose not to keep their Jehovah crap (they call them apostates)
  3. Elders and JCs
  4. Their Jehovah
  5. Armageddon
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  Prophecy question as hysteria sets in

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a load of j.w's in my family and the congregation i attend as a pimo have been saying the end is very close because the anglo american world superpower is clearly still the king of the south, and russia is now clearly king of the north due to persecuting and banning the religion there and seizing property.. i've forgot what the religion used to teach and maybe still does, about the timing of all this king of north + south stuff, the attack on all religion by the u.n and then the attack on j.w's who will be left standing.

  i mean, i thought jehovah was going to put it into the u.n's minds to ban or attack all other religions, then the attack on j.w's, but witnesses seem to think the end is so, so close because russia has banned them.. it's sad, as some dubs i know have sold their homes and made other big decisions so they can pioneer in these 'very last of the last days'..

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  Prophecy question as hysteria sets in
  

  Is there any other reason for prophecy to exist?
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  Is it 16?

  by Jrjw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi can anyone tell me if it's true the society says parents must take their child to meetings until they're 16 even if they don't want to?

  my ex is being a pain about me not forcing my 12 year old to be a witness.

  he doesn't know i'm becoming inactive at moment so i have to be careful how i word things to him.

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  My ex is being a pain about me not forcing my 12 year old to be a witness.
  

  I'm sure there are reasons why he's an ex. Look at the bigger picture. Learn to parent together. The sooner the better.
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  Matthew 24:34 NEW UNDERSTANDING (January 2018 JW Broadcasting)

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  david splane explains newest understanding" of 'this generation" adding a 3rd group.... .

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  Introduce myself

  by dantoole87 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'd like share why i went from being a teenager determined to work in full time service for jehovah my entire life, to now being on here commiserating with you all.

  i use to be an atheist but i now believe in god.

  but i'm not preachy about god.

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  Thanks for sharing, and welcome. Feel free to read our posts. Lots of great people here. Take what you like and leave the rest.
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  aspects of shunning

  by stan livedeath in

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  2. beliefs

  many members on here have been shunned.

  we know whats its like--and the effect it has had on our lives.

  but what about those of us who practiced shunning before--when we were members of the watchtower cult ?.

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  Great questions.

  but what about those of us who practiced shunning before--when we were members of the watchtower cult ?

  Through my life as a JW, no one who was really close to me or my family was disfellowshipped. I actually can't recall myself shunning people up until the point when I was on my way out and shunned the entire WT organizational structure.

  how did it make you feel ? bad ? good ? superior ? more " spiritual"?

  As I don't recall specifically or arbitrarily shunning anyone, I can't say anything about feeling anything. However, I can address the feeling of grandiosity and superiority that some JWs display when they refer to either people who they shun or people who have been shunned.

  I never shared that feeling, never felt comfortable people assassinating other people's character and talking down to people that way. Furthermore, every time I saw or heard any JW acting that way, the very first thought that always came to mind was "As soon as I turn my back from him/her, I'm next".

  do you think it did any good ? did the shunned person return to the cult as a result ?

  No, and though I know of people who have returned after being shunned, my take on those people have always been that they show some sense of discomfort with themselves, people who didn't like themselves much, or people who are very afraid of life and making decisions on their own. The congregation gave them shield from everything that they fear, which seems to be pretty much everything, hence, they come back.

  Then those I knew were shunned and didn't returned, that I know of, seem to have ok lives. Some are more successful than others, but at least in my experience, I've never seen any shunned person who never returned becoming anything close to what they say they should/will.

  or did it drive them further away--or permanently ?

  I used the practice of shunning to my advantage. Thing is that in my case they didn't have the last word, and it was me the one who shunned them to the carajo. They were not necessarily in disagreement, and who knows, maybe they did make an announcement about me, who knows, who cares.

  What I have observed in others, the few people who I know have returned after getting disfellowshipped who returned (EXCEPT for those who have other reasons, such as wanting to reestablish or maintain a relationship with JW loved ones, not because they believe the Jehovah crap), don't look like people who know how to manage their own lives. The shunning itself may be a traumatic experience to some, particularly those born-in who suddenly find themselves out of what has been their entire life as they knew it. Nothing good can come of such practice.

  do you really think it serves any positive purpose ?
  

  See my previous last two sentences.
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  Talking Janet Jackson and Religious Freedom with the Wife

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my recent sidewalk discussion with a couple of jw's has gotten me in the mood to say more when appropriate.so the wife and i were riding in the car and cat stevens comes on.

  i mentioned to her that cat stevens left music when he was still popular and converted to islam back in the 1970's- how he was told that his music would have to be morally acceptable and he found it easier to just abandon making new music for at least 20 years.

  so i didn't really remember all the details and i figured the conversation would die.

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  Well, that shut Mrs. OTWO down on that conversation. But not so hard as it did in the past. She stopped talking about the thing triggering discomfort, but we continued talking about unrelated things. In the past, she would have to go to full silence.
  

  Wow! Now you share everything from this point on!

  Great conversation. I'm very glad that you can have that type of conversation with her. Some of us could never have that type of conversation with our JW loved ones.

  Thank you so much for sharing.