i know we have all said it before, but it simply blows my mind that the jws doing cart work do not have bibles on the cart to give out to interested ones!.
how can they say they are "bible students" trying to share the "bibles message" and not give out bibles!?.
other christian groups take the commission to share the bible seriously!
If that doesn't scream "CULT" then nothing does...
Don't know about that being evidence of them being a cult, but to be honest, that's one of the things that I point about myself as a JW. I started preaching when I was 4, and stopped when I was 23. Never, not once did I hand a bible to a person. Not once. I gave a lot of the WT literature, but not one single bible, ever.
many of my friends are turning to instagram.
i’m not on there just yet.🦍.
To borrow a line (or 2) from truth_b_known, No. If you are asking in reference to the recent non-news issue dealing with Facebook selling off your info, it hasn't changed my social media habits at all. I put little to no info out on the interwebs about myself as I possibly can.
that russian thing, all those suits, the bitter political divide... it's getting out of control.
i think trump could resign and pardon all, he even could get ill because to much pressure (even for his lawyer), or he's gonna get so cornered that he could take very drastic decisions.
they should concentrate in govern the country instead, it's getting tiresome.
That Russian thing, all those suits, the bitter political divide... it's getting out of control. I think Trump could resign and pardon all, he even could get ill because to much pressure (even for his lawyer), or he's gonna get so cornered that he could take very drastic decisions. They should concentrate in govern the country instead, it's getting tiresome. Any thoughts?
These are difficult times for all Americans (I believe) regardless of what side we are on. Before Trump resigns, though, it should be proven that there are reasons for him to do so. Same thing with anything brought against anyone in government, not just him.
I definitely agree that both government and the media should focus more in policy, government, making the country stronger, and less in Stormy Daniels and Comey (which BTW, he's saying things that I like hearing, but don't necessarily mean that I trust or believe him).
Whatever happens, I think that we all have to give up the win/lose attitude that many of us have. Even if the current president gets "fired", there's no satisfaction in any of whatever negative thing happens, for the simple reason that all of it affects all of us.
I agree with you, all of this sucks from every angle.
if a government wishes to protect it citizens from the clutches of mind control cults, all they have to do is make laws that allow former members to sue theirs ass off.. what if they made laws about a system the meets the 6 points mentioned by margret singer to manipulate a person into submission to it's directives and cause mental, physical, and emotional harm and make it possible to sue them for damages.. if such laws were in place it would spell financial ruin to all coercive authoritarian cults..
If such laws were in place it would spell financial ruin to all coercive authoritarian cults.
You make an interesting point. True, but then how do you handle:
I think than more than law, maybe education and awareness might work better. Not everything has to be a law, and not everything bad has to be punished in order for people to make better choices. That is, not to mention what exactly will be the definition of a forbidden group? Experts in the matter of cults, themselves, do not keep a list of groups that they consider cults, high demand or controlling, mostly because of the legal implications.
What ever happen with awareness, education and outreach? One thing that I know very well is that you cannot legislate attitude and ignorance. Education and awareness may work better than punitive law.
so, i have a guy that is emailing me after listening to my podcast series "this jw life" about my life story before, during, and after being a jw.
this guy happens to be an elder and pioneer serving where the need is greater.
i love this guy.
@scratchme - lol, what, you think that's a lot to read? I sat down this morning and banged it out in and hour or so. I put it into Open Office afterword just for fun and it was seven pages long. Is it sad to say that might not be my longest post ever?
It was late at night when I saw your post, that's all. Ok, I read it. Amazing. I can tell it's one of those things that you just type, and type, and type, and thoughts just flow.
I appreciate your sharing this. I love that you are not trying to convince anyone of anything.
Once again, thanks.
i've recently watched the jw cartoons centered around teaching young kids the doctrines of this faith.
while i no longer practice any faith, i am well versed in this one.
i must say, these cartoons are in bad, bad taste.
You're preaching to the choir. Actually, you're just preaching. Can't care less one way or another.
so, i have a guy that is emailing me after listening to my podcast series "this jw life" about my life story before, during, and after being a jw.
this guy happens to be an elder and pioneer serving where the need is greater.
i love this guy.
Thanks for sharing. i started reading, but I think I need to start over when I have more time. Bookmarked.
it seems that instagram is the new thing.
a lot of my friends use that now and prefer over facebook.
in addition, there is the privacy issue..
Do You Use Facebook As Much As You Did In The Past?
Never used it, so in essence the answer is yes.
I don't know why people are complaining about the privacy issue. Do people really didn't know that there's a risk when you volunteer to place all your information online? I have a hard time understanding that.
since waking up i can't help but look at the future in a different way.
while i was working i felt it was ridiculous for me to start a 401k because i thought for sure the end would come before i retired.
but now, i'm a stay at home mom with very small children and it bothers me that i have done nothing to prepare for the future.
This is a great topic. Something that I feel sad about (many times) about some ex-JWs is that many refuse to let go and remain in JW "mode", meaning that they still don't take care about the reality of their lives and instead waste their time trying to start crusades against the WT or investing their time and energy in making a point to them.
I did make a point to them. I was angry for some time, but at some point I realized that I had to let go of whatever crap they come up with and concentrate in building and managing the life I want for myself. That includes financial planning.
I had no clue on how to do that, and growing up with both my family's poverty mentality (for some reason my parents thought that having money is a bad thing) and the JWs teachings didn't help at all. It was difficult at first since I had this constant nagging feeling of "I'm never going to catch up; it's useless to even attempt to catch up". But then I realize, well, if I never catch up it's better to die trying.
Time goes fast, life is too short, and next I knew was me having a good path towards retirement. This is what I did:
The biggest challenge for me was the overwhelming feeling of not knowing where to even start. I decided to start with my feelings and attitudes. Once I got rid of the JW mentality, I started feeling less overwhelmed, and I keep my feelings of discomfort over prosperity in check. I embraced the concept of prospering and building wealth, but it was a process.
jesus was a real and historical person (not the way jws or the rest of the people think him to be) because of the following historical facts:.
1) the fact that the most influential political establishment of that time (roman empire) was convinced that jesus’ name would sell to suit their political agenda (to promote slavery) shows that jesus was as historical as roman empire itself; hence they implanted slavery-friendly verses into the bible as though spoken by jesus (such as mathew 5:39, 41; 24:45 ..etc) this was in contrast to the real personality jesus really was—he was a man of courage, who ‘walked alone to do what is right if those invited refused to accompany him.’ when his family and disciples were fond of sleeping, his delight was to spend early morning hours alone, in meditation, with god to the extent he could say he was “one” with qualities of god.
(mark 1:35; john 8:1, 2; 10:30) such a person would naturally be too famous and too crowd-pulling against whom even the influential people were helpless even when they were whipped out of the temple which reminds us of “hollywood rambo style” merely because of his moral authority (not that he had any supernatural powers to perform miracles).. 2) similarly, emerging religion (apostate christianity) too knew they could misuse the name of jesus to serve its commercial agenda.
If you are interested in non-bible, non-religious information about Jesus of Nazareth, there's an interesting documentary that i saw in National Geographic about his life.
He was a real person.
