stuff you never expected you would do or enjoy doing as a non-witness.... researching - always thought i hated study and reading turns out it was just wt literature i hated studying and reading.
having political opinions and just having opinons and beliefs that are not set in stone and that i am free to assess, review and adjust as i become more aware of imformation .
droping the f-bomb every now and again to make a point feels surprisingly good but that may just be post-religious rebellion that wears off... eventually.
What's so unusual about being in HS at 14, that's the age I started HS also and graduated at 17, is that not the norm anymore (reason being for me by birthday is at the end of the year in December)
In my locality it wasn't. And that was not when I started HS. I started HS at 13, I was in 11th grade at 14. Graduated at 16.
abandoning a damaging cult is not a crime, in fact it might be viewed as a moral imperative given the levels of abuse awaiting those surrendering to its teachings and worse –its "ecclesiastic authority".. it has always seemed counter productive to inform potential enemies when your life´s goals now conflict with their rigid agendas.
disassociation letters and manifestos may be cathartic in the writing, but the outcome is a 100% certainty because of the inflexibility and lack of caring by the very group it is delivered to.. .
"fading" from under "high control" seems an oxymoronic risk at best, and currently faders walk on eggshells and look over their shoulders for years during and after the attempt - fearful that the price of their freedom will be the destruction of their friendships and family ties.. perhaps a peculiar additional preparation to a fade can reverse the balance of power – and high control cults are all about power.. .. bear in mind: - .
"Fading" from under "high control" seems an oxymoronic risk at best, and currently faders walk on eggshells and look over their shoulders for years during and after the attempt - fearful that the price of their freedom will be the destruction of their friendships and family ties.
Thanks for your words, but for the gazillionth time: Where do people get that fading is what you describe?
And please don't forget that your brainwashed still-in JW family will make your life miserable by using any scheme possible to make you stay in a relationship with them (in their terms, of course). Even the best intended, kind hearted JWs still want to have the last word.
Fading is not a graceful process. Your mindset must change, as you describe, but if you only do that you're completely ignoring the main things that makes the WT a cult.
How about in addition to all you write (which has 100% validity, in my opinion), you also educate yourself about what these groups do and how they operate? How about building a true life outside them so you have support, people you can count on, a support system, so they have no ammunition when they shun you?
Confidence can only take you so far. You need support, other people, and accept that your life and your family relationships (with those who remain JWs) will change and/or will never be the same.
If you are a person who was born in that organization, the work is harder since one has to learn a lot more about "the world". There certainly is a lot more to the story.
an eyebrow raiser to be sure.
i can understand the clergyman being so baptist that he'd still use the name jehovah since it was popular in english and german churches for a long time during and after the reformation, but 607?.
see ¶ 6 under the heading "the historicity of the book of daniel".
DATA-DOG, I'm with you.
The JWs don't own exclusive rights to bullshit.
stuff you never expected you would do or enjoy doing as a non-witness.... researching - always thought i hated study and reading turns out it was just wt literature i hated studying and reading.
having political opinions and just having opinons and beliefs that are not set in stone and that i am free to assess, review and adjust as i become more aware of imformation .
droping the f-bomb every now and again to make a point feels surprisingly good but that may just be post-religious rebellion that wears off... eventually.
I'm not with you. I loved all those things since way before.
I cannot speak for all the born-ins, but as a born-in, it was never my choice not to like those topics. I was always told not to, and I just didn't listen. I remember at 14 in high school (yes, I was already in high school at 14) talking about politics and voting and social issues with my friends in school (and some of them not liking it at all).
Part of my journey out of the JWs was precisely reclaiming my right to want and like what I choose to like and want.
I guess I was never meant to be a JW.
i wonder about this subject.
if there's a struggle among does in bethel what to write.
cause most times is preach preach.
Low level literacy nobodies.
i have just received an email from an elder's wife regarding the new data protection laws.
between the lines it sounds like she has been asked to contact me.. she says they 'don't want to leave me out' so they want me to fill out the form as 'i'm still part of the congregation'.
also, my blood card needs updating, apparently.. the elder in charge will be in contact.. obviously, i'm not doing either, but what do i do?
Can any of you tell me how to handle this, please?
I'd ignore it and if they ask me in person I lie telling that might have gone to the spam folder.
tell us a little about yourself and your family.
my mother introduced me to her jw world when i was 12. i had to attend the weekly book study....boring!!!!
plus the disney tv show was on tuesday eve 8 to 9 and once a month they did a space show......no matter how hard i tried couldn’t get out of that bk study.
Thanks for sharing.
umm how do you think islands are formed to begin with?
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I feel bad for the people who are losing their homes.
tell us a little about yourself and your family.. i was born and raised in southern california, with a brief stint with parents as need-greaters in central america.
my parents accepted a study in the d2d work, i believe my father was interested in the revolutionary aspect of the religion, and my mom said she wanted to learn the bible.
they were baptized in 1937 i think, and attended the one and only los angeles kh at the time.
Thank you for sharing this. What a great way of sharing your JW experience. Great way of getting to know you too.
i wasn't so sure how to add title in this topic.
i went back to the borg, for family reasons and the concept was after a year or so to fade out.
i m into the fade out process now.
Does any one know, how to "change" congregation and loose the publisher files during the relocation?
Start attending meetings in the new congregation. It's that simple. I have more to say but I'm afraid that might fall into the "unnecessary comments" category.
