i've tried to get over this, i honestly have.
since i stopped my kids going to meetings, things have gotten a little better.. but knowing the content of the convention programme that she was subjected to on friday, it amazes me and greatly annoys me that she goes back for more, today.
for her to sit there watching those crazy, fear mongering bunker videos.
Brainwashing has nothing to do with how good or intelligent a person is. If you look at the makeup of the people both in and out of that organization, they are all from different walks of life with different degrees of intelligence, personal values and qualities.
Unfortunately, getting sucked up into the brainwashing cult doesn't discriminate.
spoke with a fellow apostate from my own area.
she and i bailed out about the same time and kept in touch.. she used to do secular work with one of the local elders in his cleaning business until she got dfed.
this same elder was one of the more profound dickheads on my reinstatement committee, before i turned around two years later and daed.. business required her to contact the elder on behalf of an old client.
Many people are growing disappointed at what's going on. I think that many of their changes are inevitable so the consequences are what we get now.
I feel sorry for some members of my family of origin who have been in that org all their lives, only to end up in this disarray. Sad.
the brother giving the saturday"inactive ones helping them to return".. he said, this year the society has been making an effort to contact all inactive ones.. and also... the elders visit all the inactive ones at least once a year .
bs!
totally bs!.
The brother giving the Saturday"inactive ones helping them to return".
He said, this year the society has been making an effort to contact all inactive ones.
And also... the elders visit all the inactive ones at least once a year
BS! Totally BS!
Also he said that if any of the flock make contact with an inactive one they must tell the elders immediately. Hmm? I wonder why?
They don't want to talk to people who are (a) aware of what's really going on there, (b) angry and mad at the WT for what they do to people's lives, particularly those born in, and (c) are doing better after leaving. It really is challenging to try to convince people to go back on top of the rest of responsibilities. They don't get paid for any of it. So my guess is that they look for every possible excuse to skip talking to some people, and they go talk to one or two who they figure don't pose a risk to them.
They have absolutely no interest in helping anyone. That's for sure.
at the assembly i noticed something new and disturbing.
when a brother is introduced before a talk the audience is now given their life history/ major accomplishments .. "brother arsehole who served at bethal for five years, pioneered in the foreign language territory for ten years, is an elder in x congregation and serves in the construction projects blah blah blah".
this puffing up never used to happen?
Actually, I remember in the early 80s an article featuring some person from the GB. The article was all about him, so no, I don't think that that's new.
this is on the reddit frontpage and sounds super weird.
can it be confirmed in any way by anyone here?.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/4u72dk/what_kind_of_announcement_could_cause_jws_to/.
Who cares? There's nothing that those people can announce that will make me think about them. They always have some kind of "special" announcement.
it might just be me imagining things.. i hear things from my jw spies.. from all that's being said, it seems to me that the rank and file(tm), are either waking up to the scam and fading/leaving.
they are going full on 'cult mode' and acting like 'spiritual police'.. is it just me and my imagination?
have others noticed this?.
Is it just me and my imagination? Have others noticed this?
My opinion, and this is just logical reasoning, is that the Internet has open a door for all JWs who are in doubt and those ex-JWs to find each other and compare notes. Seems like the JW police does lurk around and seems to be catching up with people who are fading. I think they are aware of what people are doing when they start missing meetings, and they don;t want to make it easy for people.
"blue" lives matter!
- sheriff david clarke at the rnc.
this bs really makes my blood boil.
This BS really makes my blood boil. We give our cops extensive training, specially modified cars, bullet proof vests, batons, mace, tasers, guns, and radios to call for back up so they can protect themselves and so they can stay safe. Even more important, every single police officer SIGNS UP FOR THE JOB!
Do not for one second compare the hazards of being a cop with the unjustified killings of unarmed black men. Do not for one second think you can compare the honor filled funerals of fallen police officers where mayors come out and talk about "duty" and "patriotism" - with the unceremonious body bags of black victims who's every infraction and misdemeanor is touted before the press as public officials attempt to vilify the innocent.
If we treated our African-American brothers 1/10th as well as we treat our cops no one would ever need to say the words "black lives matter".
Just keeping it about the original post. Coded Logic, I'm with you. Politicians and all the people with power immediately want to appeal to "humanity" as soon as it's the police. They never have the same attitude towards any people of color. No one deserves to get killed for no reason other than hatred or racism.
Whoever thinks that's is a fallacy black men are getting killed left and right, and that this country isn't full of racism and hate, lives like an ostrich.
The killing in this country is out of control. And for as long as it's considered "horrible" only when it's the cops, things are never going to improve.
hi, i just signed up.
i'm 35, i've been baptized 20 years, married 15 years.
it seems like the wife and i are going in opposite directions spiritually.
Welcome to the forum, don't count on me to stay a JW.
hi i was raised in the truth in the uk since my birth in 1970 i went wayward as my family left in 1981 when i was 11 never took a career just wasted my life away now i'm 46 i rejoined when i was 22 rose to be a auxiliary pioneer and ms then it all went wrong my wife diagnosed bipolar disorder i got diagnosed depression a mega implosion occurred now i'm lost what now ?.
I'm lost what now ?
Seek family counseling or individual therapy. Mental health is important to figure out "what now". Look for any local mental health services clinic or private practice that can help you.
This may not look like a great thing, but maybe this is a great opportunity for you to venture on your own to look and find the help that you and your wife need instead of looking for magic solutions in the KH.
hi everyone, it has been a while since i've last updated!
(refer to my previous posts for the full story) here is a quick re-cap: 2 months ago my mother found out that i am living with my boyfriend, she told me i was discovered by an "anonymous" tipper who turned me in for "living in sin".. first of all, that is nearly impossible, the congregation i was in is 100's of miles away from where i currently live.. no one would have ever known i was living with my boyfriend unless i told them, which i never did, i cut off all communication with that congregation in part of my attempted fade which was blown into pieces and discovered.. anyways, my mom tells me if i don't go to the elders and confess like a good little sheep, then she is obligated to tell them.. ( don't see why, i don't even live under her roof ) well i never went to them because why should i?
so they met with my mother and she told them i live with my boyfriend... let me remind you, this was two months ago.. i was told i was going to be df'd and that was that.
I echo the others who say to continue ignoring them. However, something to think about is that your mother may continue prolonging the issue. I'd suggest the with your mom you may need to set certain boundaries, maybe after you get DFed. You may (wonderfully) never hear from those elders again, but your mom will remain in your life. It's a different situation with her.
If the harassment continues, though, you may thing to start documenting it and threat with legal actions if they do not get your refusal to talk to them. They may just want to close their case, but some people (elders included) have no respect for boundaries.
