So typical of people like them. Good, so we can move on and keep it on the topic,
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Daughter doesn't want me to push my beliefs on her
by jws inso i was talking with my daughter the other day and she tells me that she doesn't want me to push my beliefs on her.i am agnostic.
which isn't a belief.
it's a lack of belief.
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I am with Steve2. I agree.
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Caption Competition
by Tallon in.
"my dear girl, there are some things that just aren't done, such as drinking dom perignon '53 above the temperature of 38 degrees fahrenheit.".
over to you ....
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"And so like, she was like OMG!, and then like I told her, and then she was like, no way!"
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Jehovah's Witnesses - a religion of displaced people?
by slimboyfat ini've had a theory for a long time that jws historically have appealed to people who have been displaced or find themselves in a new environment away from family and friends.
i also read an article recently that suggested that internal migration in italy was a big boost for jw growth.
more generally it has long been theorised that new religious movements are a phenomenon particularly associated with disruptive features of modernity, including the hyper-mobility of people in the modern age.
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I wonder if other people have noticed, in their family or old congregations, that older JWs tended to come into the religion when they moved to a new location?
My take, I think that many people move for a fresh start and too look for new beginnings. They are in a place where they have hope that new (and good) things will start coming their way. So I can see how they may be more welcoming of some stranger visiting and offering them something that resembles their new hopes for their new lives.
I think it will be interesting if there was some kind of study to quantify the number of people who join based on the factors that compels them to become part of that organization.
@Crazygyu, what I have heard is that there are different reasons for people to join, some are things that range from being in a vulnerable time in their lives when they have lost something or somebody, or the JW message speaks to them because they are very disappointed with the state of their lives or life in general or the world, or maybe they think that joining them will help them find a suitable decent mate.
If you look at the makeup of the JWs, and ex-JWs we come from all walks of life, so though there are more vulnerable populations in society, there are other things that appeal to many different people in many different ways.
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In your delusional attention seeking mind, I guess.
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Hawker, fuck you, If you don't like it that's fine; but don't attack people you don't know. My bet is on me.
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The elusive song 151 makes an appearance.
by SadElder inthe missing song 151 now titled "the revealing of god's sons" shows up with the september edition of tv.jw.
no words or score on the jw page yet.
can't say that it sounds any different than any of the other songs they produce now.
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It's you. Ok, no, they are getting more cultish.
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Only $300,000? That's change to them. They have sold one KH for more than that.
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Interesting way of presenting it. Thanks for sharing.
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Daughter doesn't want me to push my beliefs on her
by jws inso i was talking with my daughter the other day and she tells me that she doesn't want me to push my beliefs on her.i am agnostic.
which isn't a belief.
it's a lack of belief.
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So I was talking with my daughter the other day and she tells me that she doesn't want me to push my beliefs on her.
I am agnostic. Which isn't a belief. It's a lack of belief. I can't push a belief on her that I don't have. I take a more scientific approach. There could be a god or a superior being that we might call a god. There also could be a bigfoot and a Loch Ness monster. But prove it. The one thing I know is the Bible is not the work of a superior being. Hence, we can't take it as such. So it's got about as much credibility as a John Grisham novel or Harry Potter.I just don't want her believing in superstitious nonsense, which she seems to want to. When she's sick or in trouble I want her to see a doctor or seek help and not rely on superstitions. Belief in something that's not real isn't going to help her.
I guess all I can do is show her again and again where blind faith is a problem and rationalism is better.
Any advice for parents of teenagers?
Seems like what you state is in fact a believe. You can respect her wishes and explain to her that you are not "pushing" believes in her, but that if she feels like she can't handle a simple conversation about believes or non-believes, she's the one with the issue.
The key here is her accusing you of pushing something simply by expressing what you believe. The same right that she has to accuse you of pushing your believes is the same right that you have to have a simple conversation on the subject. Ask her how are you pushing your believes?
However, make sure that you in fact are not pushing your believes to her. For example, will it be possible to just make a statement about your believes without adding things like "showing her again and again where blind faith is a problem and rationalism is better"? That sounds like the intention of trying to modify behavior around her believes, and that may be what she sees as "pushing". Furthermore, context is important. Is that the only thing you talk about? How often do you bring the subject? Are you as interested in her behavior around other aspects of her life? Look at how you frame that interaction with her when it comes to religious believes as opposed to when you deal with other subjects.