having seen many, many people leave the org over the years, i have to say that, when it comes to married couples, it's almost always the man who makes the first move to leave.
conversely, when it comes to being converted into the witnesses, more often than not it's the wife who joins up first.
although that wasn't the case with my own parents, my father became converted and my mother followed very reluctantly..
I don't know about joining first, but when women are conditioned to become obedient followers and never being the main decision maker in the family, it make sense that they may not feel right being the first ones making the move out of that organization.
It has to take a toll when they spend years and years being told that they are secondary, that all they can do is make suggestions, that they have to be submissive, and that they are weaker than men.
all these hypothetical questions about the organization's demise or what if god did this or that don't do anyone any good.
personal experiences.
info and insight about your congregation, circuit, area and the watchtower itself is what we need.
Well, this is a forum that is open to many people with different opinions of what matters and what doesn't, and most importantly, with a number of people who find themselves, probably for the first time in their lives, questioning what they have been taught for their entire lives. So it makes sense that to some people those kinds of posts feel relevant and important.
Not everyone has the ability, capacity or emotional intelligence to articulate things or to talk about things in one given particular way or with the depth of thought that some may find compelling. And not everybody is interested in posting about the same subject or from the same perspective.
In other words, if you don't like it, simply ignore it and move on. People are free to post what they feel is valuable to them and there's nothing wrong with any of it for as long as they abide the forum rules.
according to the wt, who lead "jehovah's organization" on earth in ot times?.
the kings of israel?
the priests?.
How does all that fit into the WT's view that JWs should obey the GB without question because Jehovah always works through his organization?
It doesn't. It's all made up nonsense.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/127228/societys-claim-matt-24-14-being-fulfilled-what-could-really-mean?.
The post was close to what they are doing, but they cannot be farther from them being in bad financial shape. They are in the business of real estate, they got pretty much every KH turned to them for free and sold them and consolidated their properties. They are richer than ever, not losing money.
my wife just asked me this.
my answer, in no uncertain terms, is no.
we both grew up in the dub religion.
schnell, it's a process of acceptance. Facing the truth about the JWs implies that her life decisions, her family structure, her believe and support system is based on nonsense. That's not an easy thing to accept. It's a process.
Also, some people like the social aspect of it more than the actual reality. Sad but true.
i remember a roman catholic priest acknowledging on the bbc that the outrageously anti-clerical tv comedy father ted was a humorous mocking of his church but an acceptable thing.. try mocking the jw religion to a believer and the result is so very different.. just why is it that jehovah's witnesses can never take even the faintest hint of criticism of their religion?.
Just why is it that Jehovah's Witnesses can never take even the faintest hint of criticism of their religion?
Because they have been indoctrinated and brainwashed, and are incapable of thinking for themselves.
i'm always interested to hear what a 'spokesman' for the organization has to say when newspapers report on child abuse issues.. for example the following statement was made in a recent guardian article.
a spokesman for the jehovah’s witnesses said: “we are in no position to, and neither would we wish to, force any victim of abuse to confront their attacker.”.
and this is straight from the shepherd the flock book -.
Comments anyone?
They are filthy liars and pedophile protectors.
i always have a nice bowl of candy ready for trick or treat, we don't get many so you usually have a short conversation with the parents.
so a mom & 3 kids come and the two boys were dressed in suit and ties!
i am laughing because my first thought was they were dressed as jw's!
Maybe they were dressed in JW customs.
hi folks.
i have been a lurker here for quite some time but i have now decided to make my first post.
i am originally from somewhere on the east coast, but recently, in part to aid in the fading process, i have moved to a city somewhere west of the mississippi.
Does anybody think this could work?
No, I don't think that would work because of the Internet and the many other ways of verifying information and statements made.
However, what you did, moving to a different congregation where nobody knows you to start fading, doesn't need such convoluted scheme. trust me, I know; that's exactly what I did in my case. I left one congregation and remember going to the new KH once or twice, talked to an elder and pretty much disappeared.
Many elders are overworked and are happy to slack as much as possible. I faded from the new congregation where nobody missed me and had my records transferred (and the elders at the previous congregation had a lot to say about me).
My suggestion is do the transfer and remain as anonymous and disconnected from people in the new congregation. That's all I had to do and it worked. It may work with you too.
several years ago, i was introduced to a "wonderful" company called fortune hi tech marketing by a brother and his wife.
they had been introduced by a former sheriff who claims he had researched the company and found no leins or judgments, and that former sheriff had been brought in by a pastor.
you can read what happened with fhtm on wikipedia if you so desire.. this whole new idea of multilevel marketing had my brain reeling, though, and soon enough, i actually signed up with none other than prepaid legal.
I think that my JW training has taught me not to believe in any of that nonsense. I'm a innate skeptical, so I find it hard for me to trust any of those things that make promises of lots of money with little work or education. So no, personally I haven't fallen for that nonsense and doubt that I will as I have a profession I like and work in a place I like and am good at managing my resources to live well.
