Posts by scratchme1010

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chasing me for a report

by Phoebe in

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i'm fairly new on here and i've told a lot of my story but to recap, after 60 odd years i've stopped going to the meetings.

my husband had already left the truth years ago and my children didn't become jws.(phew!).

i had a horrendous childhood growing up as a witness which included sexual assault by a close relative, also a jw.

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But how do I handle this?

First, big hug. It's quite A story and that's the least that we all can give you.

I don't know the specifics about your relationship with other JWs or any other attachment that you may have, even if you decided to stop going. I say this simply because it's impossible for me to completely erase my first 23 years of life born-in and raised a JW, leave alone 60 years.

I'm also inquiring because I could tell you what I would do, which is not advise, nor is it something I necessarily encourage you to follow.

What I would do is that every single time that every single JW contacted me, I would not drop the topic of the abuse and the letter, and talking to the elders, and them turning their backs on you. I wouldn't miss the slightest opportunity to give them a reminder.

To me, doing that: (a) would give me the power to let them know what needs to be addressed if they want to deal with me at all, (b) will force them to either address the issue or leave you alone once and for all.

Again, this is what I would do. Another course of action is just letting them go. Be always busy, always "will call them back", always have something to do and never have all the time in the world for them. remember, you are no longer supposed to be obligated (you never were, anyway) to drop everything and talk to them just because they say so.

One more thing is that you have a great asset, which is your non-JW family, and a husband who knows where you are coming from. Use them, get closer to them, get their support. I'm sure that they will be on your side.

When it comes to sexual abuse, the trauma is not just the event; it's also that disgusting coverup that people do. Sadly, religious organizations (many, though not all), are as guilty of doing that very same harmful thing.

I hope this helps, and another hug.

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Can a jw past come back to haunt a person ?

by lancelink in

when a person joins the jw organization, do they make a statement claiming that they totally renounce any other religion ?.

i recently took a class titled " religions of the world" and for a final project students need to attend several religious services, and write a paper on the experience.. i find religions to be very interesting to study, but it has crossed my mind that i may have agreed to something when i became a witness back in 1977/ 15 years old at the time.

it is not a major concern, but i would just hate for some statement to appear, or be found by someone stating that i once completely disavowed any religion outside of the jw's.. not being neurotic here, just don't want that ridiculous part of my past jumping up and stabbing me in the back😜.

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When a person joins the jw organization, do they make a statement claiming that they totally renounce any other religion ?

Interesting thoughts. Some things make more sense (at least to me), when I make a difference between religion, religious organizations, religious based businesses and cults (also known as high-demand, controlling groups). What and how people live, the things they need/have to do after they walk away from any of those, they all vary depending on what they are leaving. That is, not to mention that some people are kicked out, like Dfed people.

Please bear in mind that controlling, manipulative organizations always give the illusion that the controlled people are making a decision on their own, hence they always stay away from negative statements such as "renouncing other religions".

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Hilarious Seth Andrews lecture - "How Christianity steals the best ideas"

by doubtfull1799 in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knik8nisrry.

worth a watch imho.

very enlightening and entertaining at the same time.

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...qualified to hear the condemnation mentioned in Mathew 7:21-23

"qualified to hear"? What the heck does that mean?

Anyway, thanks, doubtfull1799. I happened to have read his book. Good work, and fun to watch,

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She's here and early! 27 weeks 1day.

by Darkknight757 in

so as of july 2nd my wife delivered by c-section our little one pound, three ounce daughter izabella.

it was a very scary night that started with a decel and turned into multiple decels that greatly concerned the doctors.

by early morning they felt the need to take her for her safety.

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Congratulations.

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Evolutionist on their deathbed.

by Nimble duck in

i would really like to read the thoughts of an evolutionist as they lie on their deathbed.

their "honest to nogod" thoughts.

their terrors.

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I would really like to read the thoughts of an evolutionist as they lie on their deathbed. Their "honest to noGod" thoughts. Their terrors. Their nightmares. Their fears.
I would like to crawl deep into the recesses of their mind and see it for myself.
Do they really believe all that noise they spread? As they lay there contemplating their final breaths, do they really believe that soon, they will cease to exist, in a dying world that teeters on the brink of annihilation, a world that wont remember them and that will one day cease to exist also.
Do they really believe that they will be gone, truly gone, forever, like they never existed in the first place?
Or in that final time, do they entertain that ever prevalent notion that they will go to heaven, or be resurrected, or even come back as a goat. That somehow, somewhere, it's not really "over", done, finito?.

And who the fuck are you for me to even bother addressing you?

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Will The Internet Immune The World From The Watchtower Virus/Meme?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

a hot internet topics: creation or evolution, and many other related discussions, the amount of ridicule the watchtower receives over the internet far out surpasses any passing of possitive internet data to the world's unfettered view.

you need a good internet presents it is vital for the cult to survive, and the internet simply won't allow this cult to prosper, but rather is sending it into ridicule filled bankruptcy, as public gets immune from the wt(virus) fairy tale about them being the only ones to survive god's righteous indignation and repopulate the earth with more drones like members.

they are stopping all construction and are selling kingdom hall,and dissolving congregations nobody is getting baptized because the public is just too informed to believe their bull shit.

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I wouldn't say rock solid, I'm sure if you look at their books they have been bleeding money for decades with their cost of manufacturing printed material that hardly nobody wants to read, so much so that they required pledges from their members and basically stolen all their congregations cash on hand in excess of a few month operating cost, plus they put a hold on all construction project accept 2 or three(big money drain) and are selling all the tools they have for construction at discount prices.

Or that's what they are lead to believe. Look at how many KHs were given to them for free, and how many they have sold. That alone, without counting on their Brooklyn prime real estate, along with continuing having free labor, nope, they are just fine.

However, to be honest, I personally don't care one way or another. They can prosper or they can go bankrupt. Either way they are out of my life. I don't need to see them suffer for me to feel ok.

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Doing your own research

by Reazon22 in

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friends

we all know watchtower doesn't encourage their members do research for themselves.

can anyone point out any articles where it mentions this?

any help would be appreciated.

scratchme1010

Can anyone point out any articles where it mentions this? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Manipulation 101: You never say "don't do this". You mislead people to believe that they are making a choice. There may be one or two instances in which they say "don't do this or that", but most of the times is fooling people into feeling ashamed for having "independent thinking". You have to have heard that expression before.

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Whats that term??

by pbrow in

so i am driving with my oldest the other day and she says..... i was reading the watchtower at the meeting and thought.... "the watchtower and awake are just like... what is that stuff that countries put out when they are at war?...

propaganda... yeah, they only give you one side of something and you have to listen to them because they are chosen".

i praised allah right then and there!!!

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I wish I had the smarts and the stones that this girl has at 15 years old!

Remember, she has you.

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Should Youths Get Baptized?

by NikL in

found this little gem of an article in the june 15, 2011 wt.... should youths get baptized?“i am so happy that my daughter is now a servant of jehovah, and i know that she is happy too,” said carlos, a christian father in the philippines.

a father from greece wrote: “my wife and i are delighted that our three children were baptized as jehovah’s witnesses during their adolescence.

they are making spiritual progress and are happy about serving jehovah.”christian parents have reason to be overjoyed when their children get baptized, but sometimes the joy is accompanied by uneasiness.

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Should Youths Get Baptized?

No.

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Guess what I tweeted my 5 year old grandson, and I got him...

by James Mixon in

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friends

yes my 5 year old grandson tweeted me last night" grandpa has a bald head"..i tweeted him back "well you still wet in the bed"..jesus trump, stop the tweeting please......

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I tweeted him back "well you still wet in the bed".

LOL!