what a journey!.
it was a year ago today that i was announced from the platform by brother paul "twofaced" castley that i was "no longer one of jehovah's witnesses".
i didn't go to that meeting to hear the announcement because i already didn't believe the watchtower religion.. how was my first year?
So there i was. An atheist. And guess what, life became so much simpler and less worrying with zero guilt for sleeping with a girl or not praying before i eat. Sometimes, even now, i get the urge to pray before im about to eat. So i look up the sky and jokingly say "Thanks Thor!"
if you identify as a christian but you have accepted that the diversity of life - including humans - resulted from a process of biological evolution could you add your name please?.
just to be clear i am referring to the fact that our physical lineage could literally be traced back all the way to non-human species.. if you like maybe you could comment on why you see not conflict between evolution and your christian faith.. there is a tendency to conflate evolution with atheism.
it would be good to show that this is not the case..
I'm not a Christian, but I have a few Christian friends, one of which has PhD in Theology, and he believes in evolution.
take a ride with me back to 1987. picture yourself in your town, or city centre.
remember the clothes people wore, the hairstyles etc.... now imagine yourself doing your ministry out on the street, engaging with people, speaking with them, striking up conversations.
now, how would you feel, and what would you say, if you noticed two people appear nearby with a cart.
How would you back then, and how would other witnesses have reacted to the cart and this couples attempt at preaching?
Well, if it was me, in 1987 in was right in the middle of my fading, so since that year on I couldn't care less one way or another.
However, I still had the JW mindset in many things, so I would have been appalled if I saw that.
On the other hand, since I know that the WT is all nonsense, and I still can't care less about it, my position is "good for those JWs who have it easier now". At least they don't have to go through what some of us did.
threads about jw urban legends are nothing new on this forum.
they are loads of fun to read.
how many of you remember the one about the teenager who skipped the meeting and decided to get into a car with his worldly friends and they worldly guys decided to rob a store and the jw didn't know they were going to do so but he was arrested simply for being with them?.
I also see some hate talk on these forums. Why the need to try so hard to prove Jehovah's Witnesses wrong or hate God for what the people in the religion have done to you. They are human too and are capable of misinterpreting the Bible.I believe God will make the misunderstandings come to light. We wouldn't want what we say to be misunderstood. I don't believe God will allow his words to be misspoken... I mean come on ... it's God. 😊... By the way I'm not a JW but I'm checking out religions and if the Bible is what we should follow and we need a group to follow the Bible with.. that's the only religion I have found that does just that.
What a party pooper!
This is a forum for EX-JWs. They are in different stages of leaving, staying or returning to the JWs. If you don't like what others have to say about them, just form your own. I don't like everything I read here, and I'm quite sure that there are plenty of members who hate my posts. That's just life in the Internet, period.
Why the need to try so hard to prove Jehovah's Witnesses wrong or hate God for what the people in the religion have done to you.
First, that's not everybody. I can't care less about what they say and them being right or wrong, period. I don't need to prove anything to them.
Second, there are people here who are in the process of realizing that they have made quite a few important life decisions based on the WT bullshit, and that's more than reason to be angry and therefore express how they feel. This may be the first time in their entire lives when they have the safe space to express how they feel, something that they were never allowed to express or even trust to feel while they were JWs. You are nobody to remove that from them.
They are human too and are capable of misinterpreting the Bible.I believe God will make the misunderstandings come to light. We wouldn't want what we say to be misunderstood.
Show me any JW admitting to that. Show me the WT or anyone in the GB publicly or openly admitting to saying or doing anything wrong. Even something as hideous as covering up for sexual abuse of children they fight in court. They don't even have the decency of doing anything about it. That's how their filthy minds think that they are right in everything.
No need to worry about what the WT says being misunderstood. We understand perfectly; we just treat is like the crap it is.
If you believe in your magic God to do great things, by all means. You have my support, I'll do everything in my power to defend and protect your right to do so.
I don't believe God will allow his words to be misspoken...
That said, so far seems like your God has done a very crappy job. Lawsuits? Scandals? Changing doctrines after letting people die? Continuously failing about when the end will come? That's a very mediocre God.
By the way I'm not a JW but I'm checking out religions and if the Bible is what we should follow and we need a group to follow the Bible with.. that's the only religion I have found that does just that
Then you're just talking out of your ass about what you don't know. Typical Christian. Go back to where you came from.
threads about jw urban legends are nothing new on this forum.
they are loads of fun to read.
how many of you remember the one about the teenager who skipped the meeting and decided to get into a car with his worldly friends and they worldly guys decided to rob a store and the jw didn't know they were going to do so but he was arrested simply for being with them?.
@fulano:
I have no idea. I'm talking about an event in 1984. I was visiting. It was in La Romana. Tall, dark, skinny, that's all I remember.
june 20, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: supplier arrangements on jw.org.
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I don't get it. Like any company, they just streamline their supplies to save money.
i said god is not giving them much of a chance to hear his message, i think it's one to 3 million ratio.
i said if wt paid prime internet space they could beam their propaganda to everyone instantly, then you could show the world mr lett live , and explain how he is to rule the world from heaven.
then i asked that god seems to like the anglo nations , i should of asked how many chinese and indian are on the gb..
I asked an elder how is the witnessing going in Bangladesh?
What was his answer? Did it make a dent?
i have not been to a meeting for about 2 years now.
i do not intend to go back but one thing has me baffled.
why do ones that have faded and been out for years return?
Why do ones that have faded and been out for years return? I have a friend who got DF a few times and came back and then faded and I can see that as a strategy to ensure you still get to speak to your family and friends, but I do not understand what makes faded ones come back.
It's difficult for me to answer that question in the general sense, however, experts in the matter of cults and groups like the JWs believe that the reasons people return are very similar to the reasons why some JW stay.
Some continue to believe in the JW doctrine. Some people do like reading the bible, analyzing "the scriptures", some people feel that that's cool and miss it.
Some people feel loss after leaving. That is particular of the born in. They have invested a lot of their time and energy, and the "pressure" of starting over is too much for them to handle.
Something bad happens to them or to the world. I heard of some ex-JWs that went back after the Sept. 11 attacks in USA, thinking that "maybe the WT is right".
They miss family. They are shunned and feel lonely without their love ones.
Shame. They left or were kicked out without a lot of planning, and as such, they may have not prepared for leaving and then "face consequences".
Fear. Leaving doesn't mean that they are no longer influenced by the WT. Something that many faders believe is that leaving and fading is just stopping from attending meetings and participating in their activities. it is a process of "deprogramming", getting rid of the JW mindset, and that's something that many fail to see how embedded it is.
I have known many ex-JWs, out for years if not decades, who still not
celebrate birthdays and believe that the WT is "the truth". Some are just physically out but mentally in.
i was thinking of my co grandfather who passed on a few years ago.
his wife my grandmother passed on in 99. i can remember him saying "i know after armageddon i can not be married to her but maybe we can live next to each other.
not sure where the cult stands on this issue today.
But its sad that people follow the cult that makes them feel sad and inadequate.
In something I posted about my father, who is in his 80s and is now alone (my JW mother passed away last year), one of the things that breaks my heart is seeing his pain for knowing that he will not be married to my mother in Paradise, along with missing her (they spent a good 80% of their lives together). It is heartbreaking to have people suffer like that.
I don't know about where they stand with it now, but I know that my JW father still has that belief.
we are asked to not love money, work ot (i was never asked because the company had money to give away, rather had a job that needed done), no extra schooling.. then when we read the literature they make a big deal of the ones who are rich.
so proud of abraham, david, and on.
remember lydia?
Indeed. I am 100% sure that Abraham did not live in a Walmart tent
