i haven't been here for about 10 months and just looked over some topics to update myself, well i came back for a very particular reason... my family was, father, mother, sister and i... the split up (4 years ago), only my father remained jw, my sister left but lives with him, and i've been living by myselft over the last months sharing an apartment with my girlfriend (worldly) an his brother (worldly) (we are a "modern family" hahahaha).... so the relation with my father have been in many different phases the last 4 years, having in mind that he cheated my mom with her best friend (woman) within the congregation an married her just few months ago... so today it's my birthday and i called dad and told him that i had a great time anyway and that to be "even more pagan" i set up my christmas tree today.... he had never questioned me for dating and living with my current girfriend nor tried to "bring me back to the congregation", but he replied to me: "hey, talking about being a pagan, i'm not confortable with things now because i want us to como closer together again and do more things like having lunch or whathever and your are now df, can you talk to the elders and take back the letter you sent them da-ing so we can share more?".
i don't know what to do, i really mean what i wrote in my d.a.
letter, i needed to vent what i think of the borg now, i'm no way taking it back, those are like my luther's theses ... i can't believe my father divorced my mother on no biblical ground, continued dating her best jw friend, and 3 years later they got married and are a happy respectable "christian" couple... and now he suddendly is not confortable with me because i sent a letter to the elders telling them i no longer believed the same shit they do... my sister simply stopped attending meetings and dated worldly boys, celebrate xmas, birthdays and stuff, but with me is different just because i have a clearer idea of who i really am and i'm trying to live by that.. i thinks this whole thing is unfair, he is totally blackmailing me, it's been years to get to this friendly level with my father, and now he is adding this awful pressure.
...can you talk to the elders and take back the letter you sent them DA-ing so we can share more?"
I know it's not an easy situation, but I'd remind him that you taking that action is not the only option He has to accept that he can talk and have lunch with you, and that he has the option of doing so and respecting your decision.
He can blackmail you only if you see it as a one-way street. Relationships go both ways. So the way I see it, it's not true that he had not "tried to bring me back to the congregation". He is trying to bring you back to the congregation, and this is probably battle one of probably a series of things that he will start wanting from you in the name of your relationship.
He must respect your decision. What he's doing is very manipulative, and you're not even noticing. He's the one responsible for not having a good relationship with you.
Maybe subconsciously you don't like living in a lie?
Either way, I hope you get to a point where, like me and others, don't even use the term apostate since that's their lingo and has nothing to do with our real lives.
one of the things i don’t like about witness gatherings is the way everything you have to do or say has to be witness related.
the songs played at a party couldn’t be played if the lyrical content was “worldly”, and also hearing the same phrases.
a conversation about something in the news and someone will say “well, we’re living in the last days” or “we’re in this wicked system of things, everything is horrible”.
my wife and i visited a local flea market this morning and found this herd that spreads bⱷꙇꙇ ꙅꚕꙶiꚍ... it's actually a broadcaster that spreads cow manure (or seeds i suppose)... much like herd on jw broadcasting sure feeds us a load of crap... .
this thread may not be suitable for you.. last week i came upon a youtube video of darkmatter2525 about genesis 38. on the preface, it says that this particular chapter - genesis 38:- has been willfully left out by many “biblical stories for children”.
true in its sense, the chapter goes on with some nasty stuff like judah, searching for prostitutes, and his own daughter in law tricking and seducing him to get pregnant.
Haven’t heard this story in Kingdom halls or in my prior churches and Sunday schools.
You may have heard the parts of those stories that they love to mention. They use (misuse?) the story of Lot to go on and on and on and on, ad nauseam, attacking gay people using that Sodom and Gomorrah nonsense. However, they conveniently leave out the part of the story where lot gets his own two daughters pregnant.
And they use that hideous story as a lesson on morality. Go figure.
