Posts by scratchme1010

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Which is better minimum wage or minimum income?

by hoser in

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we were having this discussion in the office the other day and we came to the conclusion minimum wage is better because it still adds to the economy vs minimum income which someone could potentially stay at home and do nothing and still get paid without producing a thing for the greater economy.. thoughts?.

scratchme1010

Which is better minimum wage or minimum income?

If you are a poor financial planner, an overspender or have poor spending/attitude towards money, neither.

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Are Anointed Female JW`s To Grow Beards In Heaven ?

by smiddy3 in

ok i have been out for over 25 years however i was active for 33 years and every picture /illustration of the 144,000 in wt publications i ever saw always showed the anointed/144000 with jesus on the throne apparently all male with beards.. not one woman was ever depicted in their drawings/illustrations that i ever saw of those sharing kingly rule with christ jesus not one.. and the saying is : 'a picture speaks more than a thousand words".

i can hear a jw apologist saying now [ their is no gender in heaven neither male or female ] well if that is the case why are everybody illustrated wearing a beard clearly a sign of being of the male gender.?.

in the wt illustrations/pictures of angels they are not shown as having beards giving the impression they are neither male or female .however not with those taken to heaven to rule with christ the anointed.. maybe the governing body of jehovah`s witnesses are showing their true feelings about women who claim to be of the anointed .. that the g.b.

scratchme1010

Maybe they want to look less creepy.

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Jehovah's Witness dreams

by truthseeker in

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i'm pretty certain i'm not the only one here who experiences this.. i occasionally have jw dreams.

the most recent one was me giving a talk in my home congregation.

all i had on was my trousers (pants), socks and shoes.

scratchme1010

No dreams, and like it that way.

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Sister may have had a slight heart attack, do I text her?

by Xanthippe in

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so my cousin phoned and told me my jw sister was taken to hospital with chest pains and it may have been a slight heart attack or possibly she's starting with angina.

now as some of you know my sisters and brother have had little to do with me for 29 years.

we've met at funerals, or arranged them, but i just thought today what if she did die?

scratchme1010

Sister may have had a slight heart attack, do I text her?

The first think that came to mind was "would she text you if it was the other way around?" However, regardless of how it would be if it was you the one who could use some comfort, you are your own person with your own set of values and morals.

I won't advise anything other than do what you feel your own values and morals dictate you to do. What makes you feel like a decent human being is what you should do. Trust your own instincts. Follow your rules of decency.

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Healing

by AllTimeJeff in

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among the many ways that jehovahs witnesses leadership strangle a person is primarily through the taking of your identity.

for cults and high control groups, of course this is how it's done.

but once you leave, finding out who you really are, and living a life of authenticity is usually quite challenging.. i have learned since my exit in 2006 that it is healthy to learn about who you are.

scratchme1010

Thank you for sharing this. Those are great thoughts. I agree 100% on what you posted. Many groups control others by going as far as they can to make people not trust themselves, or to think that anything that comes from their own gut feeling is wrong.

That is great information, and I think it's helpful to many others.

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Are JWs capable of a genuine discussion?

by stuckinarut2 in

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i was just pondering whether jws are capable of having a calm, in depth discussion about religious or faith topics?.

i have just finished listening to a great podcast by "dogma debate" (dan) episode 333. this fantastic, in-depth conversation between a theist and an atheist was a masterful example of how a dignified conversation can take place without it resorting to abruptness or even nastiness.. jws on the other hand seem incapable of having such discussion without ending up in the following ways:.

1)they get dogmatic and defensive if a differing view is presented.. 2)if the conversation doesn't go their way, they cut it short saying something like "well, we had better agree to disagree" or the like.. so why the arrogance?

scratchme1010

So why the arrogance? Why the defensiveness?
Thoughts?

Ask hothabanero. He can say.

Joke aside, personally I cannot generalize. First, one thing is being brainwashed and attach the wrong feelings to the right information, and a very different one is being capable of sustaining an argument.

In the culture we live today, where conceding or being open to listening is seen as a sign of weakness, I don't think that isolating JWs in that matter is fair to them. Furthermore, (IMO) approaching them or anyone for that matter in "debate mode", is not conducive to anything useful. if you look at how many of us opened our eyes and/or learned TTATT, most did not wake up after a debate or argument.

I'd check the premise on which you are basing your statement.

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Goodbye my friends.

by StephaneLaliberte in

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for almost 12 years now, i have been coming to this site on a regular basis and in the last 5, i “faded out”.

i never regretted this and never will.

unfortunately though, yesterday, i realized that, until i can publically tell all my old acquaintances why i have left, i will never be truly free.

scratchme1010

Take care of yourself. I do believe that there are choices, and that things and people change. Don't lose hope that in the future you might feel the freedom to speak your truth with your loved ones.

Good luck, we're always here.

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How much paper has the WT used to print its publications?

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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so... i am doing a crazy stat: how many pieces of paper has the wt ever published?.

i don't have the answer yet, but.... i do have the approximate answer for the awake!

and the watchtower magazines.... get ready... it's a whopping 1.1 trillion pages!.

scratchme1010

Quite a waste of paper, but in comparison with others, it's pretty much average (IMO, don't have the numbers to back that up).

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Can you top this example of JW corruption?

by Mace.Bean in

if you are a former jw elder, can you share any examples of corruption which you personally witnessed that were kept secret from the congregation?

following is an account from a longtime elder named tommy who recently disassociated.. the minor daughter of a presiding elder in a west texas congregation committed fornication with a 19-year old baptized witness in her father’s home.

the daughter had to confess to a judicial committee which included the aforementioned tommy.

scratchme1010

If you are a former JW elder, can you share any examples of corruption which you personally witnessed that were kept secret from the congregation?

Fortunately I was never an elder, but I can share that I had sex with an elder who later was part of the JC who met with me about "my" (read "their") problem with being gay. I'd consider that elder corruption.

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It’s My Anniversary!

by jp1692 in

today is the four year anniversary of the last time i set foot in a kingdom hall.

it was the day of the kool-aid issue of the wt!

“at that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.

scratchme1010

Congratulations (?).