Posts by scratchme1010

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Trump and the MEMO

by ducatijoe in

those of us here wasting our time trying to show who trump really is .... it's like trying to reason with all those still in the organization.

they have found a new person to fill their heads with lies and control they way they think.

in many ways this ts amazing to me.. i am out of the wbts and free.

scratchme1010

Those of us here wasting our time trying to show who Trump really is .... it's like trying to reason with all those still in the Organization.
They have found a new person to fill their heads with lies and control they way they think. In many ways this ts amazing to me.
I am out of the WBTS and free. No one will ever tell me how to think.
And Hothbanero, For you sake if this rule of 1 man in DC continues..... I hope YOU are financially secure.... I am.
If you are not.... your fucked

I agree, but people can express themselves any way they want. Please keep emphasizing that some people are still under the influence of the WT and its mindset, and it's brainwashing. Have you heard of the term "cult shopping"? That is when people who learn TTATT in one cult are not yet ready to let o of the behaviors typical of the brainwashed cult follower, and ends up in another type of group or relationship in which they can continue such behavior.

I think that's the case with some of those Trump hardcore fans (and other people with other believes and customs, of course, but this thread is specifically about those Trump ass lickers). They are not ready to face reality and let go just yet. It's part of their process.

One thing is agreeing with that vulgar pig, another one is what we see in some people's posts here. you can tell the difference.

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Another Aspect from which to View Prostitution

by fulltimestudent in

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if we put on our western cultural (you know, the ones that say jesus made the world) eye-glasses we will 'see' prostitution as something bad.. the 'christian' influenced view is that prostitution is a criminal racket run by gangsters, and the women (and sometimes men) have either been bullied by their pimps, or drugged until they become addicts and forced to work in brothels.**.

some of that is likely true (at times), but is it always 'truth'?.

australia's government owned abc media network, has an article that invites us to take off our western cultural eye-glasses and see the world as it really is.

scratchme1010

Personally I never view prostitution of any kind as a one-size-fits-all thing. The "western" view of it has its validity. Some women, men and children are sold into prostitution against their will. Judging them as such as something less than human is not something I agree with, especially since in my observation most people who have something to say about other human beings in such way are never a role model I want to follow (to put it mildly).

Also, I wouldn't say it's a "Christian" view of prostitution. First, Christians are not the only ones who share a demeaning perspective towards prostitutes, and second, as much as they hate to hide it and pretend that such things didn't exist, the truth is that during the time when Jesus of Nazareth lived on Earth, it was common for prostitutes to hang around the temple. Prostitution at that time was not seen the way Christianity does today.

I used the service of a female prostitute once (long story, and not an interesting one), and I'm still yet to see what exactly is the crime there, and what is different from two consenting adults having sex just for fun without money being involved.

At the end of the day, who are we to judge any kind of people? We all do that, but at least I try to be kind and open to be wrong in my judgement.

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Using Watchtowers Own Reasoning Against Them RE: The Governing Body

by pale.emperor in

something occurred to me today.

quite randomly as i was working away at my desk i remembered an illustration from the bible teach book in which satan claimed he knew better than jehovah about ruling mankind.

here's the illustration from chapter 11 of that book:.

scratchme1010

Interesting point, and great observation. That reinforces their attitude that they are to be trusted and believed in without any questioning.

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The fly doesn't know it's in a bottle....

by dubstepped in

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... the walls are transparent.

so if you want to help the fly escape you first have to convince the fly that it's in a bottle, and only then can it find its way out.

that is taken from this american life episode 635 called "chip in my brain".

scratchme1010

Thanks.

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What would you say?

by Freedom rocks in

if you had 2 minutes with an old witness friend or with a family member to convince them the 'truth' is a lie and the gb isnt being directed by god what would you say to get their attention that might make them question their beliefs?.

scratchme1010

Another what-if, never will happen scenario. Uh!

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Home schooling website / system for JWs

by sir82 in

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so, apparently, there is an organization which provides structure, curriculum, etc.

for home-schooling of jw kids:.

http://www.newsystemschool.org/index.html.

scratchme1010

I've known of that type of home schooling available. I have mixed feeling about that model.

JWs are by far the most maladjusted JWs out there.

Not even close. And no, I'm not defending them. Look at the data and statistics on "Adjustment disorder" or "Maladaptive coping", and you'll be surprised. In USA you can get that info from the NIH and the CDC.

Nope, by far JWs are not that.

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My Boyfriend's Family Wants to Meet Mine (My Parent's are JWs) Help!

by LaurenM in

so i have been "faded" for approximately 2.5 years.

my parents know i haven't attended a meeting in quite some time, but don't know that i have been dating a guy for about eight months.

we really love each other and his family is super sweet.

scratchme1010

I think it's time to have a nice, serious and heart to heart conversation with your parents. I imagine that you are an adult, which means that one of the main points of conversation is that as an adult you are now in charge of your own decisions.

Easier said than done, though. Even in the messed up family I grew up in, I found it difficult to make that point to my parents. There's always fear to hurt them, but that also means that we are communicating that we are going to be responsible for everything in our lives, something not easy to do when you create some dependence by means of the WT.

However, the best way is to be honest, for them to hear things about you directly from you, and for them to start understanding that you are now an adult with your own ideas and decisions of what/who you want in your life. All that should come from you if you want the best outcome (IMO).

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When lacking education makes you say some eternal truths

by paradiseseeker in

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i think some of us are familiar with those jw facebook pages that post images that are shared by our contacts from time to time.. i don't know if this happens with english speaking jws, but in the case of spanish speaking jws many of those images contain some spelling and grammar mistakes.. but this one is killing me nicely.. .

it literally means: "unless you use your life to serve jehovah, you will never feel empty".. beautiful :').

scratchme1010

What I hate is how they continue using English syntax in Spanish. The rest is just the same JW bullshit (in any language).

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WT predicting smartphones back in the 20s?

by paradiseseeker in

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i've come across a jw friendly article about watchtower predicting smartphones in the 20s.. .

of course, in the comments section there are a lot of jws freaking out saying "there is no doubt that this is the only true organization!

", "thanks jehovah that used his faithful and discreet slave to tell us some useful information about the future!

scratchme1010

Plagiarized information.

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The Constant Mindchatter After You Leave

by pale.emperor in

i've been out almost 2 years now and consider myself wide awake to watchtower propaganda and well on my way to recovery from the mental abuse we've all experienced.. one thing that just will not go is that i constantly think of jwism and watchtower and get myself all annoyed at their lies and blatant twisting of facts in their broadcasts and magazines.

it's so bad that it's the first thing i think of when i wake up, then i have these mental arguments in my head proving the jw teachings false and then getting annoyed because no jw will listen even if you tried to tell them.

i call this constant thinking and mental reasoning and mental arguing "mindchatter".

scratchme1010

Thank you for sharing. You don't ask for advice, and I respect that. However, please give yourself some time. 2 years is not a long time to de-influence yourself from the WT nonsense.

May I ask, where do you find peace of mind and comfort? Have you replaced the JWs with something healthy, not necessarily spiritual, but whatever void the JWs filled for you, do you get those needs fulfilled somewhere else (if you were a JW for a reason, not a born-in)?

Also, if you feel such discomfort, maybe talking to a mental health professional can help. Would you be open to that idea? Meanwhile, I'm glad that you are sharing here, who knows how many others are going through the same.