Posts by Gordon

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Does The WT Keep Files On ExJW Activists?

by NotFormer in

it occurred to me that the wt, if they can identify the activists that are currently campaigning against them, would have a lot of ability to compile detailed dossiers on them.

once identified, the elders of the appropriate congregation could be asked to forward copies of all their membership details held locally.. would they do that, and do such dossiers exist?.

(there are probably data collection rules governing such things in a lot of countries, but by no stretch of the imagination could the wt be considered a good corporate citizen).

Gordon

Haha, I tell the JWs who I am - I give them my name, so when they get to St Peter's gate, they will be reminded about the day that Gordon XX warned them to get out of the WT Cult.

Over 30 ago I had a tract ministry about JWs- I used a printing service that shipped out Christian tracts and they put some of mine in for free with their orders. I have gotten responses back from foreign countries, too. Two years of that work and I was done. I decided that my calling was to live a normal life= no more beating my head against a brick wall with JWs- then the Internet started up and my mimeograph became obsolete anyway.

I doubt that the WT headquarters made a connection about my old KH closing up around 2011 and me going door to door in that city (1989-90) and also leaving my tracts at every city around that KH and talking personally to households, for the decline/closure of that KH about 20 years later. It was all Gordon's fault!

Nope, they won't give me credit for doing that. The personal work of one ex-JW, which caused the eventual closure of that KH and left a 500 square mile empty KH-free zone was a job well done. Maybe I have I paid my penance to God for preaching a fake WT religion. I heard from my kids, back when they were still going to the KH, that I had ruined the D2D work for that KH- and my kids and ex-wife were ostracized by other JW, because of a fear they were somehow contaminated by me (I was living 1000 miles away after the wife divorced me). It took awhile, but eventually my ex-wife and my son and daughter all left JWs- they didn't like being on the "marked" and "watched" list, so they moved away and never had contact with a KH again. My daughter is a Church member, my son declared his faith in Jesus, too. I've said enough.

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2024 when will Witnesses admit they are wrong???

by Witness 007 in

1914 generation is long gone.

1975 was a joke 40 years ago.

i know of many witnesses still hanging on for armagedon but when will they give up?

Gordon

I saw the 1975 excitement first hand in the KH, but IMO, there was a small number of brothers who were skeptical about that date, but they kept quiet, so an not to throw water on the exciting increase in interest and new KH members coming in. Yes, I heard some elder say "stay alive until 75" at a circuit assembly in a talk, they also made an positive example out of an elder's son who quit high school at 16 and became a pioneer- the koolaid was drunk by many back then. I originally thought it was great, but by 1974, I was in the camp of, we shouldn't set dates.

Last year, was the 35th year since I sent in my exit letter to WT headquarters.

You can't cheat death by being a JW, nor can you avoid the consequences of being in a religious cult.

For those PIMO, consider this, God gave you a unique life to live, but JWs have taken that way and substituted their teachings and planned way of life for you- a fake reality. The longer you avoid leaving the KH, the less of your real life will be left to live.

Take your punishment from the KH, be a man and leave with your head held high.

Follow the light of truth- The only reason you haven't quit the JWs, is because you won't publicly tell the truth about how you really feel. Once you start telling the truth about your feelings, the KH will make leave.

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They Came To The Door!

by NotFormer in

jw
friends

going door to door with their "memorial" invitation.

"so you can pass the emblems but nobody partakes?

them: "we can explain who is to partake".. me: "all jesus' followers".

Gordon

Them: "It's been nice talking to you! Bye!"

Me: Bye, bye!

JWs marked my old house, probably even my who neighborhood, because I didn't follow their D2D rules.

I would show them a couple of my old , now 100 yr old, WT publications which freaked them out, so they left.

Then I followed them outside and announced, I am now preaching to you.

The brave would try to knock on a other door, but I would stand on the side walk and add my disclaimers- "be sure and ask them to explain why the shun their family members who decide to join a Christian church".

In short order, they have to leave my territory, as it got too hot in the kitchen for them.

I'm sure Simon would not agree with that, but to each his own. I have had some great conversations about JWs with neighbors in that old city. I stopped doing that when they went to the literature carts, which was better, then I could talk to them- witnessing the truth about JWs. A copy of the 1984 WT cover about 1914 generation never passing away never failed to evoke a discussion, coaxing JWs out of their comfort zone. I've said enough.

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JWs in Norway lost to the state - will not get state support back

by BelisemDeBelimakom in

translated with google translate:.

the trial went before oslo district court in january, and now the district court has concluded that the state is acquitted.

jehovah's witnesses are also ordered to pay court costs of just over nok 1.1 million.. https://www-vg-no.translate.goog/nyheter/innenriks/i/2bljxg/staten-frikjennes-etter-aa-ha-blitt-saksoekt-av-jehovas-vitner-melder-dagen?_x_tr_sl=ka&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp.

Gordon

I did an experiment about 10 years ago.

I called up local KH's on Saturday morning and asked to speak to an elder.

I asked them, if their KH would sponsor a food donation barrel for a local well known food bank. Out of six KHs I called, none would agree to do that. They all had excuses- mainly they pick their own charity work to do on their own.

I told them all, JWs are a parasitic religion, sucking all the free stuff they can from Caesar and his government agencies, but giving nothing back to local communities. -AND that is one reason why JWs get no respect.

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My old KH is a house now

by Gordon in

rossville, il, i heard it had disbanded about 15 years ago.

know, i see someone bought it and turned it into a home, but sadly for them , the bad kh karma did not help the resale value.

looking at the interior pictures it's hard to see the old kh.

Gordon

I moved out of state in 1983 and came back an apostate 6 years later, haha

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Changing Avatar

by MillennialDawn in

i have tried several times but my avatar won't change.

any suggestions?

thank you.

Gordon

Same for me too-

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My old KH is a house now

by Gordon in

rossville, il, i heard it had disbanded about 15 years ago.

know, i see someone bought it and turned it into a home, but sadly for them , the bad kh karma did not help the resale value.

looking at the interior pictures it's hard to see the old kh.

Gordon

The house just to the south was owned by a sister and her non-JW husband, they donated the 1/2 acre the the congregation. The congregation then sold their dilapidated KH in Hoopeston, IL for $8500, which became the seed money for the new building. Donations quickly followed and soon there was enough money to put up the prefab shell.

The expectations of a huge increase in membership never materialized. It was built for about 120 and most of the time the attendance was only 60-70- tops. The original Hoopeston KH was only about 40-50 members.

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My old KH is a house now

by Gordon in

rossville, il, i heard it had disbanded about 15 years ago.

know, i see someone bought it and turned it into a home, but sadly for them , the bad kh karma did not help the resale value.

looking at the interior pictures it's hard to see the old kh.

Gordon

The garage area was a large gravel parking lot- grass has reclaimed most of it. The first owner used to park his semi trailer rig on it.

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My old KH is a house now

by Gordon in

rossville, il, i heard it had disbanded about 15 years ago.

know, i see someone bought it and turned it into a home, but sadly for them , the bad kh karma did not help the resale value.

looking at the interior pictures it's hard to see the old kh.

Gordon

I helped build that KH in 1974-75, it was a rush to get it finished before the Armageddon.

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My old KH is a house now

by Gordon in

rossville, il, i heard it had disbanded about 15 years ago.

know, i see someone bought it and turned it into a home, but sadly for them , the bad kh karma did not help the resale value.

looking at the interior pictures it's hard to see the old kh.

Gordon

Rossville, IL, I heard it had disbanded about 15 years ago. Know, I see someone bought it and turned it into a home, but sadly for them , the bad KH karma did not help the resale value. Looking at the interior pictures it's hard to see the old KH. The original entrance was at the end of the covered walkway, that part seems intact.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/401-Green-St-Rossville-IL-60963/96909821_zpid/?