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  I have been informed that if u are df and you appeal the decision and you loose appeal

  by poopie in

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  the elders will keep you out longer as payback for you appealing their decision how dare you peon appeal the secret weapons design you stupid publisher.

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  ZAPPA-ESQUE

  The decision to appeal will mean that you have to go through another JC with 6 heavies now - Possibly a long session too. Are you emotionally up to that ?

  As has been mentioned the Over-turn rate is very low !

  The appeal committee is hand-picked by the CO and if the Circuit is composed of idiots and sociopaths [High rate of that too] - you are dead before you begin -

  Also you have read elsewhere on this forum regarding the keeping of personal notes etc - Well many of the idiots I had to sit with on JC's interpreted that as don't make any notes at all in the JC - so in the appeal they are now relying on their memories ! It is human nature to review information in our heads and then enhance and embellish or re-arrange "facts' as we perceive it to be - and in the appeal this is how it is now often articulated -

  Its a flawed arrangement !
  
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  BOE 2015-11-03 Re: 2016 Convention Invitations

  by wifibandit in

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  2. beliefs

  mirror via google.

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  Concerted ! Power words / Chariot is on the move ! Your Gas/ Time/ Effort / Money - so launching a campaign is easy ! And your money to print them ! We have the ultimate business model -
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  If they're just going to emulate Jimmy Swaggart and the like (e.g.: JW Broadcasting), why do they need such a massive compound in Warwick?

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  they're obviously getting rid of the rags, drastically reducing printing of books in general, eliminating special pioneers, etc., etc.. ... what could they possibly need a 1.6 million square feet compound for (not including outside space) in the middle of nowhere?.

  just to put things into perspective, 1.6 million square feet is equal to the square footage of roughly twelve (12) costco warehouse clubs.

  wtf?

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  With Armageddon Just around the corner/ imminent / shortly / soon .....etc why dont they just wait the the Big A then they can have the entire Pentagon compound and all of Washington !
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  Do you need Art and Music in your life?

  by The Rebel in

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  music and art have been a big part of my life since i was a little boy, and although i was never able to play a decent guitar, i can paint.

  my art teacher from college said " i was the most imaginative and constructive pupil she had ever had.

  " i loved that comment, because in translation i realised it meant i had to work harder than other more naturally talented students, but the effort was always worth it.

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  Music = Major part of my and wife's life - on a professional level ! Heavily curtailed during the years in the Cult though ! eg turning down scholarships etc
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  The most widely distributed magazine in the US !!!

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1. watchtower & awake - under review as these is now a 16-page anorexic pamphlets (not magazines) .

  2. espn: 42.9 million 3. people: 28 million 4. allrecipes: 24.5 million 5. forbes: 21.6 million 6. time: 18.1 million 7. entertainment weekly: 14.3 million 8. cosmopolitan: 13.7 million 9. bloomberg businessweek: 11.2 million 10. new york: 9.8 million .

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  Just how are the Distribution figures determined? From the spreadsheet of the Printeries Production schedule or by having had a poll from readers who attested to having obtained the mags? Cos you and I know that a lot of them don't even go outside the doors of your homes !
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  Holiday time (at least in the southern hemisphere)- Here's a suggestion. Northern Sri Lanka

  by fulltimestudent in

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  2. friends

  not many years ago, this visit may have been dangerous.

  but now that the civil war is over, even if the tamils lost their fight for independence, its safe to visit:.

  http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/asia/sri-lanka-by-train-the-formerly-war-torn-north-is-rebuilding-a6736001.html.

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  ZAPPA-ESQUE

  [Photo: Table Mountain - Cape Town @ sunset]
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  Pranks to play in the hall...

  by purrpurr in

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  2. friends

  what pranks could you/would you/ have you played in the kingdom hall?.

  i have never but here's two i've thought of, 1) replace the liquid soap with glue 2) smear nutella everywhere in the bathroom!.

  what's yours?.

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  Had this lily "white" family of Dutch / Afrikaner descent [this is South Africa] who would only sit on one side of the hall at the very back - so insistent was Mrs about sitting there that she would send hubby to the hall in advance of the meeting [he is an elder] to reserve the seats !

  So along comes ZE and son-of-ZE ...early cos as you know elders have to be at hall at least 20 minutes before time to start hounding...... and we move their bags to the front seats ! chaos ensues .Mrs E is so miffed she left the meeting!

  Next time - there were 4 interested young gents of Dark Hue attending and ZE and Son swopped their bags with that of Mrs E and co - chaos ensued - Mrs E immediately counselled the newly interested Dark folk about not swopping peoples bags .....fortunately they were very humble guys and took this in their stride !

  Needless to say some years later Mrs E's granddaughter gets knocked up by a ......................................that's right ! And now I am told Mrs E is the proudest, most un-racist Granma you can hope to find ! The baba btw is the cutest little chap imaginable !
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  JWs have more good points than bad

  by lsw1961 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).

  2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.

  this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.

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  """""Every organization (and even Governments) will have their own terms and conditions designed to protect their interest, and it is natural that anyone who tries to undermine them has to be disfellowshipped or should attract something similar (as Edward Snowdenrightly expects from the US Government).""""

  ISIS and BOKO HARAM also have T & C's !

  """" In your case, you are not enjoying your lives even after coming out of JWs as you are still worrying about what JWs are doing and attacking them relentlessly (just like a divorced husband, who passionately monitors his former wife and attacks her with no let up). """""

  Absolute baseless statement and assumption in typical JW Judgemental style [Well practiced and rolling of the tongue with ease] - after 60 years in the Cult I have never been happier now that I am away. I have made a personal choice and decision to attack their erroneous teachings when I wish and how I wish -

  """the higher-ups ............, told me to wait for Jehovah. """

  They served you Cult-Kool-Aid ! And you imbibed !
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  Refused to go to meeting wife broke frying pan on my car....now SHE is inactive 4 years my advice!!!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my wife is a stubborn stubborn woman.

  when we got the internet in 1998 i slowly faded due to trying to prove apostates are lairs and scum...only to find they told nothing but "the truth.

  " every qoute was checked and re-checked.

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  Dedicated to you and your lady!

  Natural Black - Stubborn Woman

  https://youtu.be/p7WCYK4SZqs?t=12
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  Does the Federal employment law requiring notice of 60 days of mass layoffs apply to Watchtower Corporation?

  by truthseeker in

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  2. friends

  yes, bethelites are unpaid volunteers/employees.. this mass firing of bethelites in the us will prove to be a drain on state and local government finances as many of these bethelites will seek government assistance.. can it be said that the federal employment law applies to bethel?.

  a federal law called consolidated omnibus budget reconciliation act ... act (warn) requires larger employers to give employees notice 60 days before an ... layoffs, which are defined the same as above but occur in stages over a period of 90 days.. http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/layoffs-plant-closings-know-rights-33596.html.

  notice requirements.

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  OrphanCrow - Hi To you - I was also looking [and hoping] for a loophole - but WTS in my country took the Department of Labour to Court over this very issue in 1995 and the Labour Court upheld the matter in WTS favour - However.....................I clearly remember that there was a major scramble thereafter to "register" the Bethalites as employees and it is this info that I am trying to get hold of.

  I need to speak to a current Bethalite to find out what their terms of contract are at this time - It is obvious that WT is milking Caesars laws ...........once again ....to their own selfish advantage. eg their claim to be a Charity ....my A----e !