Hey , I would just say "I am not looking to date anyone at this given time, so sorry" .I have done this when I was PIMI, PIMO as well. It works for me even POMO with people I have no interest in1
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what are your thoughts on that?.
Hey , I would just say "I am not looking to date anyone at this given time, so sorry" .I have done this when I was PIMI, PIMO as well. It works for me even POMO with people I have no interest in1
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when a person is guilty and worthy of punishment, the judgment ‘will already have been bound in heaven jesus said and if they are loosed or innocent it will already have been “loosed in heaven..in such judicial deliberations, jesus says, “where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there i am in their midst.” .
psalm 127:3.. children are a sacred trust, “an inheritance from jehovah.
jws abhor child abuse and view it as a crime.its recognized that the authorities are responsible for addressing such crimes.jws do not shield any perpetrator of child abuse from the authorities as has been alleged.
Alex : So if one is truly repentant he should still be DFd,
Oh wow! Goes to show how little you know ! Did you not read in the child abuse cases that those who comitted the crimes did it not just once or twice (again not undermining the crime by the numbers game) many times often the victim being the 1) same child again n again, 2) other kids as well; even after they had been reported to the elders and needing the needful to be done; coz they are supposed to be a refuge and a protection for the flock.
Does that define as repentence to you mate committing the crime again n again ?
Recently I read about an elder who had committed this crime with 50 children! Appalling n disgraceful!
So for you even the bible holds no authority but your own little bubble of a world coz 1Corinthians 5:2 says in no uncertain terms " that the man who committed this deed should be taken away from your midst".
What does this verse mean to you?
Next , if God is the one to forgive all kinds of serious sins if there is repentance, why was King David punished n his household?? Was he not repentant?
Jdumb website says :"David was heartbroken, and he admitted to Nathan: ‘I have sinned against Jehovah.’ This sin brought a lot of trouble on David and his family. Jehovah punished David but allowed him to live because he was honest and humble."
here is the link: https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-stories-lessons/7/david-and-bathsheba/#?insight[search_id]=742278b7-39cc-487e-b13c-0d431fefb32c&insight[search_result_index]=2
“The one covering over his transgressions will not succeed, but whoever confesses and abandons them will be shown mercy.”—Proverbs 28:13
True God shows mercy but crime does not go unpunished; eg of David. I have lots to say to you coz your comments n posts are so full of holes which tells me you are not researching things outside the jdumb world. You have a lot to learn if you free your mind, mate.
My suggestion go and do search out everything whether these things that we talk about is true or not.Be like the Beroens, they just did not accept whatever was told to them, but examined, researched the truth. I invite you to do the same mate---- 1John 4:1 "Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired statement, but test the inspired statements to see whether they originate with God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world."
There is nothing wrong or sinful in doing so.
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i have worked at chelmsford .
everybody seems so happy, but i couldn’t help wondering why all these volunteers give up their time and money, working for free for the future bethelites to live in such luxury .
all all the volunteers working there now will be kicked out on the street next year, with the lucky few laughing at the poor suckers who irked for free making this new bethel so amazing .
Val, you are a loser coz you could not walk the walk. You made the claim about helicopters, BBQ and all other BS# , YOU MADE A COP-OUT with cant take pics.Why not? are you and the bethel CIA, MI5? I have taken pics when in bethel (yes really i have givne a few years of my life to bethel service!) at social gatherings, etc with big shots.
You claimed " Ask me anything ,I am happy to prove it".
You failed ,you lose.
You lose YOU CANT WALK THE WALK, Mophead.
Dont make claims you cant prove!
when a person is guilty and worthy of punishment, the judgment ‘will already have been bound in heaven jesus said and if they are loosed or innocent it will already have been “loosed in heaven..in such judicial deliberations, jesus says, “where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there i am in their midst.” .
psalm 127:3.. children are a sacred trust, “an inheritance from jehovah.
jws abhor child abuse and view it as a crime.its recognized that the authorities are responsible for addressing such crimes.jws do not shield any perpetrator of child abuse from the authorities as has been alleged.
They are guilty but not worthy of removal from the congregation
The bible says otherwise mate at 1 corinthians 5:2 Actually sexual immorality*+ is reported among you, and such immorality* as is not even found among the nations—of a man living with* his father’s wife.+ 2 And are you proud of it? Should you not rather mourn,+ so that the man who committed this deed should be taken away from your midst
Who is lying here by saying that they are not worthy of removal from the congregation?
You / Governign Body .By your saying they are directed by God, they are not coz the above verse confirms ( the bible that should be the last authority for any christian) that your statements is a lie. Wake up and open your eyes.
This is just the tip of the iceberg!
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i have worked at chelmsford .
everybody seems so happy, but i couldn’t help wondering why all these volunteers give up their time and money, working for free for the future bethelites to live in such luxury .
all all the volunteers working there now will be kicked out on the street next year, with the lucky few laughing at the poor suckers who irked for free making this new bethel so amazing .
Ask me anything, I am happy to prove it. everythin* I said is true
Lets see some pictures of the family nght, BBQ'S, helicopter landings n take offs with bros/siss getting off n on etc.
Proof is all I ask not just talk.
You talk the talk but can you walk the walk??
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when a person is guilty and worthy of punishment, the judgment ‘will already have been bound in heaven jesus said and if they are loosed or innocent it will already have been “loosed in heaven..in such judicial deliberations, jesus says, “where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there i am in their midst.” .
psalm 127:3.. children are a sacred trust, “an inheritance from jehovah.
jws abhor child abuse and view it as a crime.its recognized that the authorities are responsible for addressing such crimes.jws do not shield any perpetrator of child abuse from the authorities as has been alleged.
Any JWs judicial deliberations are theocratic and not privy to the pubic as sharing in the knowledge of decisions or sins committed by individuals.
This is BS# and you know it Alex
Why? coz everytime someone is reproved, disfellowshipped, most of the congregation gets to know what he/she has done. First off the elders cant keep their mouths shut, they share everything with their wives, who later share it with their best friends and on and on it goes. Thats is the truth of it all mate.I have been told things sins of others that is" not privy to the public" like this and I have been surprised that this is what really happens. (I am in no way undermining CSA issue here)
Two faced???
You have opened a can of worms mate.
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when a person is guilty and worthy of punishment, the judgment ‘will already have been bound in heaven jesus said and if they are loosed or innocent it will already have been “loosed in heaven..in such judicial deliberations, jesus says, “where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there i am in their midst.” .
psalm 127:3.. children are a sacred trust, “an inheritance from jehovah.
jws abhor child abuse and view it as a crime.its recognized that the authorities are responsible for addressing such crimes.jws do not shield any perpetrator of child abuse from the authorities as has been alleged.
They are guilty but not worthy of removal from the congregation
What exactly are they guilty of ? is it not in other words having sex with someone who is not ther wife/husband? In this case a child for crying out loud! When adults are found guilty of this same mistake they are diisfellowshipped .
Million dollar question they certainly are guilty then why are they not disfellowshipped ???
Double standards ??
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when a person is guilty and worthy of punishment, the judgment ‘will already have been bound in heaven jesus said and if they are loosed or innocent it will already have been “loosed in heaven..in such judicial deliberations, jesus says, “where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there i am in their midst.” .
psalm 127:3.. children are a sacred trust, “an inheritance from jehovah.
jws abhor child abuse and view it as a crime.its recognized that the authorities are responsible for addressing such crimes.jws do not shield any perpetrator of child abuse from the authorities as has been alleged.
Alex,
You are at it again....counting time.
Let me amuse you with the facts. I read your BS# a rather long one at that but one question-- all you have stated is what is written in washtowel mags ie always written in black n white.The million dollar question is WHAT REALLY IS DELIVERED? DO THEY FOLLOW/PRACTICE IT WHEN IT COMES TO ACTUALLY DOING WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS? OR .......
Eg: you wrote "In such judicial deliberations, Jesus says, “where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.”
I personally know of a case where this bro committed fornication with another bro's wife.When he was called to the JC, he said "F U , if you can get 2 witnesses to corroborate it, then we can talk.Do what you can! " he walked free, no action could be taken although quite a few knew about his sin.
Million dollar question: where was jesus and his spirit to put right the wrong done here mate????.Jesusu could'nt deliver could he ? he continued as a bro till today.
This is just a start. your whole statement in your post above is full of holes but I will leave it for someone else to point out.
All I ask is have an open mind, remove your blinkers/ blinds and do some research and you can then decide for yourself.
In this website no one tries to force anyone to renounce their faith or beliefs just a sharing of healthy discussion.
Have fun counitng your time n RV'S
Peace
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c) the whole damn winery
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a) a glass of wine
b) a bottle of wine
c) the whole damn winery
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