Posts by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

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Is There Anything You Can Be Thankful For Since leaving The JW`s.

by smiddy3 in

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i can ,the people i had influence over in joining the religion.,but have now left the religion.granted it`s family,except for one.. those that were active jw`s and have now left :.

my wife .

my two sons ,and a wife of one .

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

No longer in shackles, handcuffs, chains, most of all using my brains and reasoning as I see fit for my life, in my life.

Everything after this has been a true gift.

Zing

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Does anyone remember?

by dubstepped in

so back when the borganization took over the congregations and their money when "forgiving" the loans for the mortgages, i seem to remember there was a congregation that stood up to them.

it didn't work, of course, but they caused quite a stir.

does anyone remember what congregation it was or any details where i could search and find more about it on here?

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

Yep! I remember.

It was the MenloPark congregation.

If you go to : http://jwleaks.org/

you will find loads of the court documents too regarding this.

Zing

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When was it time for you to walk away from your congregation meetings and the WTBTS?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the basic virtue for a human being is to be true to yourself – the integrity of thought, emotion, and action.. .

ten years ago ( after 32 years as a jehovah's witness), i finally decided that my own mental sanity and being true to myself was more important than attending congregation meetings and serving the watchtower society.

i stopped (years before) field service, the ministry school, answering at the watchtower studies, missed numerous meetings and walked in minutes before the meetings started and left after the closing prayer, i knew it was time to leave.

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

@zilgee

it means "life will not be found again".

I just picked it off the internet.

Zing

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When was it time for you to walk away from your congregation meetings and the WTBTS?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the basic virtue for a human being is to be true to yourself – the integrity of thought, emotion, and action.. .

ten years ago ( after 32 years as a jehovah's witness), i finally decided that my own mental sanity and being true to myself was more important than attending congregation meetings and serving the watchtower society.

i stopped (years before) field service, the ministry school, answering at the watchtower studies, missed numerous meetings and walked in minutes before the meetings started and left after the closing prayer, i knew it was time to leave.

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

Thank you for your kind words Chaching.

It is really amazing that you have helped your family to awake. I am not much of a writer and english is not my first language either but thank you for encouraging me. For me to get out without my partner was unthinkable. To be honest with you since we got married we have been together 24/7 literally. We have from day 1 built our relationship as strong as we can make it. Each day we remind ourselves of how precious we are for each other. We truly are great together. WE as one is the only good thing that came out of the cult and we give each others personality the credit for it. We forever hold each other as valuable n priceless in the whole universe. So yes we work hard in keeping, maintaining ,strengthening our love/relationship from strength to strength.

When "In" we did all things together, we never have gone out , been doing something on our own. If one doesnt want to go somewhere(partying,socializing, shopping anything) the other cancels too and we stay with each other. We cant be without each other at all.

Thank you for reading my posts.

Good day to you.

Zing

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German Translation Needed!

by Atlantis in

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translation needed for this german 2019-december letter.

does it say there won't be any more preaching in bolivia?

https://docdro.id/aktjhp6petra!

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

@Vivalavida

Hallo Freund, ich bin nirgends in Deutschland, habe nur mehrsprachige Kenntnisse, das ist alles. Ich war in einem fremdsprachigen Gebiet.

Ich kann Ihnen nicht sagen, woher ich komme, da ich die Identität preisgegeben habe.

Tut mir leid, wenn du den falschen Eindruck hast.

Zing

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When was it time for you to walk away from your congregation meetings and the WTBTS?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the basic virtue for a human being is to be true to yourself – the integrity of thought, emotion, and action.. .

ten years ago ( after 32 years as a jehovah's witness), i finally decided that my own mental sanity and being true to myself was more important than attending congregation meetings and serving the watchtower society.

i stopped (years before) field service, the ministry school, answering at the watchtower studies, missed numerous meetings and walked in minutes before the meetings started and left after the closing prayer, i knew it was time to leave.

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

I agree it is a challenge Zilgee but I am a born intoo. I woke up by myself. With no help off of the internet and anyone else. Could not afford any comforts of life coz led a simple life attending to basic needs and devoting time to this cult. Yet, started having doubts, struggled with myself to see through the fog of lies but ultimately came through to the light.

Have some faith mate!

Zing

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German Translation Needed!

by Atlantis in

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translation needed for this german 2019-december letter.

does it say there won't be any more preaching in bolivia?

https://docdro.id/aktjhp6petra!

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

To all assemblies in the branch area central europe

Important information about the special preaching activity in Bolivia

Dear Brothers,

Unfortunately , we will not be able to hold the special summer campaign in Plattdeutse in Bolivia at the scheduled time in 2020

Due to the political unrest , the Gb has decided to postpone this- probably to April/May 2021. As soon as we receive further info regarding this we will inform you accordingly.

We live in critical times where unexpected events occur any time ( 2 tim 3;1)

Trusting that the understanding of the corporation is for the safety fot he brotherhood, we would like to thank you who were ready to spend time and energy to...

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When was it time for you to walk away from your congregation meetings and the WTBTS?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the basic virtue for a human being is to be true to yourself – the integrity of thought, emotion, and action.. .

ten years ago ( after 32 years as a jehovah's witness), i finally decided that my own mental sanity and being true to myself was more important than attending congregation meetings and serving the watchtower society.

i stopped (years before) field service, the ministry school, answering at the watchtower studies, missed numerous meetings and walked in minutes before the meetings started and left after the closing prayer, i knew it was time to leave.

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

@Zilgee

Also ask why the hell does the society TELL you which hotels to stop in for conventions? is there job to give spiritual food or be intrusive and rule our every move? which verse supports this?

donations are supposed to be voluntary why the hell do they tell us /make us make a pledge to give so much..monthly to the society? By the way there are at least 5 different types of contributions we all are supposed to give. I see no verse supporting those.

All these higher ups CO, DO, branch representatives ,gb travelling first class instyle does not align with a life of poverty pledge they sign does it. is there life simple? We are suposed to lead a simple life but not them? can you imagine jesus travelling first class...what do the scriptures reveal...jesus did not have a roof over his head.

Of course in not so many words but gently, smoothly.

Zing

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Jesus to rule for 1000 yrs yet he started in 1914?

by krismalone in

i believe when we were in the jw cult, our brains and thoughts were hijacked by the governing body.

i truly believe the gb thinks all members are stupid and they laugh at them in their wednesday morning secret meetings.. one such teaching that i never heard anyone bring out or question yet the absurdity and contradiction is blatantly obvious is: revelation chapter 20 says that christ will reign for 1000 years.

it doesn't say he will reign more than a thousand yrs but only 1000 yrs.

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

That is what people trade in when joining a cult: brains n life for BS.

Zing

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When was it time for you to walk away from your congregation meetings and the WTBTS?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the basic virtue for a human being is to be true to yourself – the integrity of thought, emotion, and action.. .

ten years ago ( after 32 years as a jehovah's witness), i finally decided that my own mental sanity and being true to myself was more important than attending congregation meetings and serving the watchtower society.

i stopped (years before) field service, the ministry school, answering at the watchtower studies, missed numerous meetings and walked in minutes before the meetings started and left after the closing prayer, i knew it was time to leave.

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

@Zilgee

I think for such ones you may need to :

1. prove unconditional love(share your personal experiences, one at a time and attach a scripture to it which shows what was done was wrong; and let it hang) is BS.

2. Show stuff on jw.borg via videos .Finding statements they make which are fabricated to suit their needs.internet does help towards this.

3. Start pinpointing things that are quite in contrast to what the bible says and what really is happening/ being delivered (perhaps peoples actions which in my experience would be double standards). Choose the right moments to bring something to their attention and just say that am I wrong in understanding that the bible says at matthew 7:12 do unto others...Why did /does bro A treat me like this ie being rude to you, ignoring you, belittling you unfair to you (not to be petty but serious ones and if done often then it does raise questions) etc anything that is wrong as per the bible and leave the statement hanging unless they come up with an answer. Check the vibe you get from their answer if negative towards what you are saying then leave it there without discussing further.If positive /agree that was wrong then dont pursue too much into it but still leave it there saying "it does upset me that my bro treats me like this.Love is the identifying mark and he is doing quite the opposite.Oh well I wil leave it in Gods Hands" .

No confrontation at all .If you bring different points to the table from the bibles angle plus works then gradualy in time atleast one point will make them think.

Eg. when my father passed away we went through a helluva time with mishap after mishap so meetings/ ministry were out the window totally for 3 months.We did call two elders and let them know of our loss, believing they wll let others in the cong know .This is common courtesy/decency, right. During all of this not one bro/sis popped in or call us, or send a card .When we finally resumed our meeting it hit us that not one person knew (ofcourse the BOE did not inform anyone about our loss so no one called or bothered to even know how we were; this still does not let them off for not enquiring after us does it).The elders had not told anyone.I took this badly coz all this talk about in corinthians how we are one body and if one arm aches the whole body is affected n all.In truth it is all bs. Was love the identifying mark here??

I am sure you will find many such bad examples of works not adding up to what a true christian should be like.

If you keep asking or just drop statements and let it hang, I am sure sooner or later the penny will drop. Make sure you do not come across as the enemy,then it defeats the purpose of waking them up.

I have stated that I have left things in Gods hands (a statement they shove in your face often) and am waiting on him to show to me I am wrong ". "What does it take for god to show one who has given all his/her life to him that he cares and I am wrong ,guide me to the right way of thinking". They should be able to see that you are wanting to stick with the truth but if the truth itself is not delivering itself to be the truth you are left with no choice.

There is no identical situations in life mate so you have to think of ways to gently nudge them without losing patience.

I am sure there is partiallity, elders family being treated differently and the R n F treated differently specially when it comes to going up the ladder or when one takes a misstep. Align it with the bibles standards and bingo you have something to discuss.

Another point maybe the number of anointed one s left on the earth.It has gone from 8800 to over 20000.This just does not make sense to me ever. If you do research through the yearbooks you will notice how it has increased instaed of diminishing .

Generation change another point in itself.Tread carefully as on egg shells and it will work if given time.

Hope this helps.

Zing